bumping arrow weight, tube or heavier spine&point?

[Pegen]

I shoot well tuned 570gr carbon arrows (beman 400), but I need to quiet this bow down. my goal is 650gr. what should I do? stay with my current arrows, putting weight tubes, adding 80gr, or going to a heavier spine (340) and add weight upfront?
thank you

[wtpops]

IMO weight tubes are just one more thing to mess with, cutting to right lenght, pinching them so they dont rattle, hitting somthing hard and having them knock out you nock, messing with the spine of your arrow.

I would just go with a heaver spine and load the front, less to worry about and less to go wrong and more FOC.

Again this is just the way I feel, your results may very.

[katman]

heavier spine and front load, you will get the added benefit of better pentration from efoc.

What weight bow you shooting?, 570 grains is not a light arrow for me. Playing with brace height, string silencers, string thickness and limb pads were string leaves the bow, recurve, will help quiet her down.

[ranger 3]

Read this Topic: The perfect arrow by O.L. do a search

[SOS]

Another for higher spine and higher point weight.

[Pegen]

Originally posted by katman:
heavier spine and front load, you will get the added benefit of better pentration from efoc.

What weight bow you shooting?, 570 grains is not a light arrow for me. Playing with brace height, string silencers, string thickness and limb pads were string leaves the bow, recurve, will help quiet her down.

Katman, I'm shooting a 57 # black widow recurve. I already have the brace height pretty high at 8 and 7/8, and 4 silencers, and padded tips...still too noisy. thank you for your help

[GMMAT]

One thing not addressed is.....you already HAVE the lighter arrows.

While the added FOC WOULD be optimal, I'd have to weigh costs in there.  Your cost to get to the weight you want would be greatly reduced if you just add tubes.

Maybe next set of arrows.....you go the extreme FOC route????

Just another way to skin the cat.

p.s. NO CUT on the product, AT ALL, but you "might" consider adding the bow hush kit (padded loops and BIG yarn balls).  This will REQUIRE you to add more tip weight, with your current arrows.  My recent findings of this were astounding.

[katman]

Never had a widow and do not know there brace height recommendation, but 8 7/8 sounds high. Try to find the sweet spot by lowering it a few twists at a time and listen/feel for that sweet spot. Above or below it she will get noisy and vibrate some. I have switched to skinnier strings, 6 or 8 strand D97 flemish, because my bows shoot quieter with them. Also a tight nock fit can cause more noise. If that does not help then a heavier arrow is certainly the way to go, if you can handle the trajectory difference. Good luck.

[kbetts]

Both my Widows are quieter at 8 to 8.5.

[wtpops]

Katman. The max recomended brace for most widows is 9" and some guys run higher than that.

[fireball31]

Personally I had a hell of a time tuning efoc arrows.  I put tubes in and they weakened spine by a very small amount. I added string silencers and wammo a nice heavy arrow.  I have not had any issues with my nock getting smacked out.

[katman]

wtpops, wow that's high, thanks for the info. What length bows do they recommend this for? My 68" target recurve bow is at 9", my 62" recurves, hunting, run 71/4-7/34.

[frassettor]

I tried the weight tubes with dissapointing results. Your better off using a different spine with a heavier tip weight. I switched my whole arrow set up as well to get my heavy arrow.

[Pegen]

Thank you all for this great info. After careful consideration, I'm going to go for the heavier spine arrows, $95!!,  instead of the more affordable $15 weight tubes. As one fellow said, those tubes are one more thing in the great arrow debate/equation I don't want to have to mess with

[David McLendon]

Six strands of 450plus will be much quieter and noticably faster. Pad the loops or make up a 12 strand and cut out six, which gives uniform loops. You have zero stretch or creep unlike a low count D97.