I have always had a hard time shooting longbows, just dont do that well with them. I shot a buds savanah the other day, beautiful bow, just all over the place. A local guy called and wanted a recurve, had a Bear Montana #55 to trade. I really wasnt interested, but shot the bow and my first 5 shots at 20 yds went into a 5" group in the kill zone on my deer target! I couldnt believe it. I moved back to 25 and put 2 more in the group. Anyway, shoots great, and I traded with the guy. I have been working on form a lot this year since haveing shoulder surgery, maybe that is one of the reasons, but couldnt shoot the savanah, which feels a lot better to me. Any thouhts/experiences on these bows, tips? Thanks, Sam.