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Author Topic: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?  (Read 428 times)

Offline Mount Sweetness

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Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« on: September 12, 2009, 10:32:00 PM »
I have no access to brass inserts.

Does anyone have a useful home remedy for adding front weight to carbon arrows?

Can I screw machine screws into the back of the aluminum insert....can I glue in a 55gr lead bullet behind the insert?

I've heard many things for adding weight to the full length of arrow (tubing, weed wacker line etc).....have not heard of cheap options to rig up front weight...

Using Heritage 250's, no access to trad supplies what so ever.

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Offline xtrema312

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2009, 10:46:00 PM »
Anything you can glue or screw in will work, but I think a bullet or other shaft diameter lead, brass, steel rod, or what ever is best so it is balanced.
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Offline Jesse Peltan

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2009, 10:49:00 PM »
I think 3 rivers sells a weight system for point weights.

Offline Mount Sweetness

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2009, 10:50:00 PM »
Would I simply crazy glue a bullet to the back of the aluminum insert and then glue back into shaft?

Or will the bullet move back into the shaft after being shot often, will glue hold it in place?

Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2009, 10:52:00 PM »
Mount, the .243 caliber bullets can be glued in most standard carbons to add weight up front.

If you've got a mailbox and either a credit card or Paypal account, you've got access to everything we carry (including brass inserts) and we ship a LOT of stuff to Canada.

Shipping starts at $1.99, and that includes Canada.   :thumbsup:  

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Offline Strutter

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2009, 12:11:00 AM »
I took an 8/32 tap and ran it all the way through the insert and then filed the heads down on some #8 brass screws til they fit the shaft and screwed them into the bottom of the inserts and reglued them in the shafts.  This was on AL arrows but should work on carbon as well.  The BH's were Magnus and the threads allowed enough room for the #8 screws to be screwed in about 1/8" and I also applied glue to the screw threads.  So far they are working great and no problems.  If you want more weight, just use a longer screw and add washers as needed.  I used 3/4" screws and they added 30 grains.

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2009, 08:18:00 AM »
I have a digital grain scale, and after I make up an arrow as I want, I squeeze automotive silicone into the insert end, until it weighs what I want.

It goes in hard, but it goes. I then screw a tip in to clear the threads, remove the tip again, and leave the nock off to help it dry. (about two days) This took alot of playing around to find my desired weight.

It makes my arrows quieter (absorbs vibration) and increases FOC. I have not tried to remove the silicone on one yet, but I`m sure I could make a tool out of a small diameter steel rod to fit in the nock end to do so.

Offline LCH

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2009, 08:35:00 AM »
Gold tip makes weights you can screw into the back of the adaptor. They also sell a long allen wrench to do it with. Call them they will be very helpful they were to me. Be sure your inserts are tapped all the way through. Iknow they come in 50 grain increments and I think they come in 10's. You can screw them into each other.LH

Offline D.A. Davis

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2009, 09:12:00 AM »
The Gold Tip weight system come in 10, 20 & 50 grain increaments.  I've got 140 grain in the back of my inserts in my Carbon Express Heritage 150's.
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Offline Holepuncher

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2009, 06:16:00 PM »
Just as Slow says, Braveheartarchery has just what you're looking for. I bought some 125 grain inserts for my carbons glued some Woodsmans on and ended up with 250 grains up front. just perfect.
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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2009, 07:19:00 PM »
I use 8-32 socket head cap bolts with brass sleeves. I turn the head of the bolts down to .241 and have tuned my Gold Tips to fly true with 78 grains behind the insert. I also had to make a tool so I could take the weights in and out from the back of the shaft.

 
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Offline Shleprock

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2009, 09:15:00 PM »
A field tip put in a drill in a vise takes about 5 minutes to file down to fit in an arrow. Want more weight start with a heavier tip. The problem is the length of the insert. Your tip takes up most of the insert. You will have to shorten the threads. That means you want to start with field tips that have threads all the way up. Some have a small amount of bare shaft. You don't have much threads in the insert to spare. You can also trim a small amount of threads off your field tip or broadhead. Someone needs to make a longer insert. Just take an insert that's threaded all the way thru and screw a field tip in to the back of it. you'll see what I mean.I bought 100 grain 5/16 brass inserts from 3 Rivers a couple weeks ago. They fit well and are long. They sell 50-5/16 also. I bought the 100's so I could cut them down to whatever weight I wanted. The problem is out of 12 there are 4 that the threads are messed up. I had to re-tap them.
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Offline Smallwood

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Re: Adding weight to arrows up front, alternative options?
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2009, 03:48:00 PM »
1/4" all thread fits nicely

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