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Author Topic: how to age bear scat  (Read 2542 times)

Offline Bard1

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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2007, 10:59:00 PM »
Thanks for taking the question seriously Robin.  
I am new to bear hunting still, and I don't know what they eat over here to start. Every one seems to think it's just the grass, but I am not so sure.  The grass isn't so thick and healthy when they first come out.  The few piles of scat I found were filled with all grass though, it's obvious by just looking at it.  I don't know what they call the grass, but it's the thick green blade grass you see growing along the side of the gravel roads in the woods.  I know as the days progress we'll start seeing more bear scat in and along the roads as they start eating more of the grass.  The way I am hunting is to find an area with six or so piles in a 100 yards of road and then set up there.  I try to see the bear first, then I call.  It's really thick here, I don't like to call without knowing where the bear is.
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2007, 12:35:00 AM »
I don't know about aging Bear crap. I do know Bears love Skunk Cabbage. I bet if you find a place where the Skunk Cabbage is coming up, you'll find Bears.
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2007, 01:12:00 AM »
Oh good idfea Jerry!  I do know what skunk cabbage looks, and smells like!
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2007, 07:38:00 AM »
Sounds like your on track Derek. Let me know how your calling go's. I've got some bear sounds on a calling machine I'm wanting to test. I want to be watching the bear when I play the sounds.

Spotted my first bear tracks last week, going thru a patch of snow.

I helped a buddy from Tenn. get a big boar that was real high in Elev.. He was eating skunk cabbage, only one I've spotted doing it. It took me 3 days to talk my buddy into going after him, he thought the ground was to steep.

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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2007, 06:34:00 PM »
Heck I am so fired up to get a bear I'd have tied a rope around my waist and handed you the other and and said, "hold this."    :goldtooth:
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2007, 07:31:00 PM »
Derek in Jersey in the spring all you have to do is go in the woods with a box of jelly donuts or a pocket full of snickers bars. Sit down start eating bound to have some action. LOL

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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2007, 07:37:00 PM »
ONE OF THE WENSELS ONCE TOLD ME take a 16d nail put a line on it 1" from the point, insert the nail into the pile one inch at 45 degre angle count the seconds till it( the nail) falls and thats the age in days....

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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2007, 07:45:00 PM »
You could always have your hunt camp rookie taste test the scat piles for ya......LOL  :scared:
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2007, 08:50:00 PM »
Bard1,
Don't you just love this place...sometimes you get all the answers you didn't know you needed!
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I guess if we run into the bear that is making these tracks, we oughta just get off the trail.......He seems to like it!  
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2007, 09:00:00 PM »
Don't know "how" to age it but what I'm wondering is "why?" Does it get any better with age? Like proscuito or a good wine? If so I'd probably salt it then smoke it.
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2007, 09:46:00 AM »
this was fresh enough to make us a bit uneasy. that's a 11 1/2 boot!!

 
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2007, 10:08:00 AM »
Fresh-
 

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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #32 on: April 06, 2007, 08:50:00 AM »
I as with an old timer when we came upon a pile like the one in Joe vt's picture above. When I asked if it was fresh he replied, "if it was fresher it would be in the air".
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #33 on: April 11, 2007, 10:36:00 PM »
Turdometer.

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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2007, 11:05:00 PM »
AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!So they do poop in the woods !!!!I just knew it!!!!!!

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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #35 on: April 12, 2007, 12:26:00 AM »
Hmm. well that's almost helpfull I think.
I am heading out for bear agian this weekend. Hope to see more sign then I did last time out.  
We've had a lot of days with both rain and sun, so that really gets the grass growing, and hopefully the bears out feeding on it.
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #36 on: April 12, 2007, 06:09:00 AM »
If you start sliding in green muck, then, it'll prolly be pretty fresh.

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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #37 on: April 12, 2007, 07:06:00 AM »
Some of what the 'scat' looks like depends on the bears diet; the photos show that; the first might be downing some dog food or bear bait; the second looks like the bear was feeding on choke cherries.
 Bear scat dries from the outside in; so break it apart and see if its wetter or drier in the middle. If its consistantly wet its probably a fresh pile;if its dry -as it looks in the top picture above it probably is newer too- break the sections apart to find out if they are wet inside.
 The same bear can have different looking scat; I will bait with popcorn and then dogfood; and check to see where the bears are - because the sudden change to dog food ( with grease on it)because the scat will be normally look looser; and light brown.
 Meat eating bears will have dark scat more often than not.
  If you want to see if the bears are watching you -and can legally bait; put whole oats in with other bait. Bears don't digest the oats and if you feed them oats ONE day; you can date the scat really easy.
  Put a knuckle on it to see if its warm; if it is; get ready.
  when baiting; the bears will go downwind and lay up; always there to scent you ( in a up and down area like Idaho); with wild berries and winter kill; they will do the same thing; so if you find bear scat; stop and look downwind.
  When I stalk; I look for bears; but I have found more looking for bushes waving when the wind is not blowing. Bears like to lay on their back and strip off snow berries and other berries; and I have stalked up and tapped them on the nose with my bow tip.
 Keep in mind my will states that I am to be cremated and my cremains to be mixed with honey and left where I bear hunt... what ever happened to Brian? "He's where the bears $hit in the woods".
  Bears move really fast; I remember a study that showed the average bear traveled 40 yards in 2.5 seconds; so if they come after you either stand your ground and act bigger; or curl up and take your chewing. Your not going to have much time to do this- so keep an arrow on your string when your close- arrows don't penetrate well on an incoming shot; but often they will bite at the arrow - giving you time to nock another; or push your hunting buddy to the ground and take off running   :bigsmyl:  
 It sounds like your spot and stalking; that might not end up with a high percentage total broadside shot. Might; might not. If you don't hear it crash or the death moan-  mark the spot; and come back with someone that you can trust.
  I track and the rule is the guy following immediately behind me has a shotgun and IF the bear charges; I yell "bear" and hit the ground flat- giving the shooter a safe area for the shot.
 Sometimes bears will go a distance; and then turn back and lay up next to their blood trail.
 So; keep looking off to the left and right too.
 And the other thing that might happen is that other bears eat bears; and you can; and I have - been tracking a bear and got real close to a bear eating the dead bear that was hit.
  I once was tracking a spring bear with my son; who thought he had killed the bear. He had not; he had given it a buzz cut and a sore area; and I found it as my coleman lantern was fizzing out.
 It stood up in front of me at less than six feet; and I turned to see my son had his gun over his shoulder. I drew and fired my 6 shot .357 at it six times.
 I used to be a competitive shooter with a revolver; in fact THAT revolver; and yet- at six feet I missed the bear twice of the six shots.
  It was standing; and eye level to me; and I still missed twice- so really be careful - anyone can miss; and I proved it. It was a 6 1/2 foot 18  plus inch bear too.
  When I stalk I like to do it when its really windy- in the fall the berries fall from the wind; and not only do the bears find berries on the open ground; but often drunk birds.
  I move very slowly and on trails; and into the wind; and only go through noisy stuff when the wind blows hard.
  Its really fun. You use eyes and nose for this sometimes more than anything; as bears can be so silent it is incredible.
  Good luck; don't stick your finger into the scat; if the bear kills you; the coroner could rule that you stuck your finger where you shouldn't have: and the bear killed you.
 That would NOT be a good 'goodbye story' for any hunter   :campfire:    :archer:
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2007, 06:24:00 AM »
Brian...PRICELESS!!  :thumbsup:
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Re: how to age bear scat
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2007, 10:45:00 AM »
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don't stick your finger into the scat; if the bear kills you; the coroner could rule that you stuck your finger where you shouldn't have: and the bear killed you.
 
good one    :D    
I think the coroner might just put, died from "lethal inspection" hold on this one stinks, to save the family "em bear ass ment"
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