ace hex not tough enough for a squirrel UPDATE

[-Achilles-]

I've always used feild points

[Gordon martiniuk]

You must have super big tree rats down south I kill them with judos or rubber blunts hit them any where in the body game over .. Broadheads for squirrels is just wrong in my books

[Boom Stick]

Originally posted by -Achilles-:
I've always used feild points

[Brad_Gentry]

I squirrel hunt a lot, and my quiver is full of a mix of homemade heads (.38 casing and banding steel) and hex blunts. I think hex blunts are one of the best commercial heads out there for squirrels. The plain fact is, and it's already been said here, squirrels can just be dang hard to kill. They're tough little buggers! Half the time the arrow's just for stunning 'em... then you gotta go hand to hand!  

[Bill Skinner]

I like a blunt with a some sort of cutting surface.  I have been using PDP Small Game points since I got some from Kim last year.  They work great.  Before that, I would split field tips with a hacksaw and put in a small blade made of banding material.  Gotta watch out when you shoot up in a tree, I have had arrows bounce around and come down behind me.  Bill

[Romans3]

UPDATE, I connected again and this time with an old three blade broadhead given to me by a fellow tradganger. Right through the mid section of the body. Couldn't get pics onto photobucket for some reason. I'll try again. Darn thing still ran 30 ft up a tree with a hole through him before he fell out. Tasty snack yesterday afternoon!

[Killdeer]

Gordon, do you have gray squirrels up there? We hunt gray, fox and red squirrels. The red (pine) squirrels are about half the size of a gray, which is about half the size of a fox squirrel.

I had a grey (that's gray, in Northern terms) squirrel get away from me after a solid body hit with a hex-head. The same type of head killed two bunnies for me in NY. Squirrels are tough. BTW, I am using hex heads again this year, but will use a broadhead if the rat is on the ground. I won't give up on the hex-head with just one failure. They fly too well and are convenient in the quiver.

Here is a link to that hunt last year:

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=90;t=000382

Killdeer  

[NorthernCaliforniaHunter]

Killdeer, that was one of the most incredible stories I have ever read. Thanks so much for sharing (squirrel slayer! LOL)

[Killdeer]

Cool! Glad you liked it! You have given me a grin more than once, good to know there's been a payback!

Still curious about those Canadian squirrels.
(Gray, red, or a "Canadian blended"?)

Killdeer  

[drewsbow]

I think you need more arrow weight , I use 780 gr out of 48 # @ 30 bow .  

[Zbearclaw]

I can attest to the light weight of the squirrel not taking the full force theory.

I was a full blown runt in HS, weighed 65lbs my 9th grade year.  I played football and wrestled all four years but until my senior year I never felt anyone hit me.  I was so light they would hammer me and the only hit I felt was my head hitting the ground.

My senior year I was a huge 119lbs and could feel anyone under 200lbs hit me, but after that threshold I still hardly felt it till the thud on the ground.  Kinda funny to get hit by the biggest guy on the team and not feel a thing.

The coaches thought I was nuts and tough as nails, little did they know I was so little I couldn't feel it!

[Deadbolt]

I just got ahold of a few of these barta claws...

http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?i=5408

anyone ever use them?  what head did you use a field point or a steel blunt?

[Hot Hap]

I was going to try those myself Deadbolt. I was going to use a fp and try to sharpen the claws with a dremel tool. Hap

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Originally posted by Deadbolt:
I just got ahold of a few of these barta claws...

 http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?i=5408  

anyone ever use them?  what head did you use a field point or a steel blunt?

Those are Adder points. They've been around for probably 20+ years. Guys used to put them behind broadheads for turkey hunting (why, I'm not sure). I used them behind field points in the past for small game, but they weren't nearly as effective as Hex Heads.

[Yolla Bolly]

I heard the good Doctor was working his research down in GA.  Maybe we could get him to set up a ancillary study looking at all factors that affect lethality on "kirtrles".

[Greg in Delton MI]

I shot a Rock Marmot in Idaho with the ACE Hex last spring, through the shoulders DOA at the den entrance. 60# Heritage Bridger Mountain Longbow and weighted GT Trad. My arrow broke both shoulders and stayed inside her.

Keep smacking them, they do die with a well placed blunt.

[Doug A]

Deadbolt,  those are replacement "blades" for the barta blunt.  I am going to be trying that head this week.  this is the link for the whole barta head:     http://www.3riversarchery.com/Broadheads+Points+Glue%2DOn+Small+Game+Tred+Barta++%22Barta+Blunt%22+Head_c57_s43_p95_i5407_product.html  

BTW, the claws would work great behind any screw-in blunt or field tip.

[bmb]

those adder points are all i use....combined with a field point up front for rabbits and i use a blunt and adder point for squirrels in trees, that way i get my arrow back:)