tuning mistake

[Chub]

hey gang  , my tackle is 60in 52 at 27 but draw 26 tuning 1916s they were shooting well with 100,125gr tips but i could not leave well enough alon wanted to try 145 . shafts were 28.75 cut off more than i wanted honestly did not pay attention cut to 28 is it possible that these arrows are to short for me to get tuned i went up in weigt and down in weight played with br ht cant get even close to shooting were i was happy :    failed to say boblee recurve shooting 3under

[Chub]

forgot to say im using a b50 string

[Scarne]

The short answer is no.  There is no such a thing as to short a shaft.  Just to short for you and or your set-up..

You say all was well and good but you wanted to play around a bit so you added 145 to the front end and now the shaft was to soft so you shortend it by 3/4 of an inch and it is still to stiff or soft?  You didn't by chance cut all the shafts to 28" did you? If not just go back to what you were doing prior to the adventure.

Assuming you did cut them all...go back to the 125's and see where you are at.  No improvement, go back to the 100's.  One of them has to be close.  

Or...and this has happened to me more than once.  Perhaps you are rushing through this.  Maybe if you put it up till tommorrow your form/release will be more consistant.

[Chub]

yes i did cut all 6 . im 2yrs new to trad equipt.it got dark so im waitting for sunrise

[high mountain]

Im not much of a tuning pro, so Ill skip any specific advice.
But I have to agree with Scarne. At least for me...confidence in the shot rules all else. If Ive been fooling with my set up..and dont think it works, It doesnt.
Its difficult to change set ups and still shoot well...take a break and come back..and shoot as if youre still using the old set up..and see what happens.

Good luck

[SL]

you can build out the side plate a bit if the arrows are to weak.Some times it doesnt take much.
SL

[Bowmania]

Just looking and seeing your poundage and arrow, I'd say 1916's are on the weak side.  BUT how are you tuning?  AND what results are you getting?  Then we can give advise.

Bowmania

[Chub]

im using ols planning method.sofar 20 to 40 gr tip weight variation showes dramatic diffs!

[Zach Mikita]

I had trouble tuning my arrows to my bow until I decided to put the BH at what was recomended, a simple rug and shelf plate, and an arrow that I liked.  When I left that alone I +/- tip weight and the thing that affected my arrow flight was knocking point.  My buddy would shoot my bow and he'd have an arrow flying on a string shooting straight up and down with split fingers and then I would shoot the same set up and wouldn't even be close.  Im not familar with the BLee bows but I know what helped me.

Bowmania hit it on the nose...how exactly are you trying to tune your arrows?

[Zach Mikita]

Didnt see the post above   :D   the tip weight will change the arrow's flight.

[ranger 3]

If you cut too much off then they are too STIFF. add more weight up front. The shorter the arrow the stiffer it will be.

[Scarne]

Chub...
Give it a day orso to rest and then put some data together for us.  One thing is certain, if the shafts are border line soft then 20-30 grains on the front end will make a difference.

BUT...the shafts should all be to stiff for the 100's and 125's.  If 145 dosen't soften them up then a packet of 5 grain brass washers will dial you in.

[Chub]

hey gang just wanted to let you know after your advice /suggestionsandi was rested and got myself relaxed i was shooting yesterday and this morningshooting has improved alittle playing and minor adjustments i got dialed  in at 18 yards im shooting app a 4-5 inch group  the 145gr seems to be ok might need to get some brass washersto grt alittle closer.its great thati can go to the computer and put out a ?and get so much feedback and helpful advice!                                                      thanks gang i love it here                                                                    chub from wyoming valley pa

[VAFarmer]

For me, a nights rest makes a ton of difference, too.

I have resolved not to make "tinkering" changes after a long shooting session.   I shoot bad enough when I'm rested-not gonna try to make a change and expect good results-my groups have already started to open up by then anyway.

 

God bless,

Farmer

[Dave Bulla]

Yup, bottom line, shortening an arrow shaft makes it stiffer.  For a stiffer arrow, you need to increase point weight.  You also may have to play with nock height a little.  Starting high and working down seems to work better for me.  Try nocking above your nock set instead of below it for a couple shots.  Most people end up around 1/2" to 5/8" on the nock height.  I don't shoot 3 under though and not sure how that affects nock position.

[SCATTERSHOT]

yeah, tinkering when you're tired causes a lot of grief. Been there, done that.