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Offline rambo1993

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #60 on: November 06, 2009, 09:37:00 PM »
TTT
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

Offline TheFatboy

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #61 on: November 07, 2009, 02:31:00 PM »
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Originally posted by LongStick64:
Have to disagree on the short bow being inaccurate and noisy. I have a Saluki Turk 54". Dead quiet, very quick and sends an arrow where I'm aiming.

Now as far as finding a Turk bow that performs as well as my Saluki Turk at such a ridiculous low price, don't think so. Lower cost would be a used Saluki, Black Mountain Sheepeater (on sale now!!), Siegeworks looks like they make a decent bow. Heck I'll even include my Great Northern Ghost, with it's static tips, it's "Turk" like, and you won't find a tougher bow than that.
54" is short, but not what I would classify as a short bow. The junior Turk from Grozer measures 45". That's short!

You're right about the performance, by the way. I don't think you will find more than a few handful of bows which perform as well as the Saluki models, for a lower price. I hope to get my bow sometime during spring.
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Offline rambo1993

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #62 on: November 07, 2009, 08:30:00 PM »
TTT
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

Offline rambo1993

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #63 on: November 07, 2009, 10:09:00 PM »
TTT
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

Offline rambo1993

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2009, 04:17:00 PM »
ttt
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

Offline rambo1993

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2009, 02:06:00 PM »
am i able to attach a small bow quiver on the turkish bow thanks
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2009, 05:11:00 PM »
ttt
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

Offline Tsalagi

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2009, 06:15:00 PM »
I know these horsebows look cool, but the truth is, performance beats cool all day long. I had one of these horsebows. I could never get any accuracy out of it and I tried everything I knew of. It also had tremendous problems casting the arrow, i.e. it was almost like this 60# bow was a 25#. Could it have been me? Perhaps. But the minute I sold this horsebow and bought myself a Martin Saber recurve 50#, accuracy returned. Imagine that.

Look, when I saw that horsebow, I thought that horsebow was just too awesome. I tried it. I was very unhappy with it. If you're planning on hunting, the coolness factor of the bow isn't your first consideration. Your first consideration is to the animal: What bow will make a clean kill? I would strongly suggest you start hunting with a standard recurve or longbow, get accurate with that, hunt with it. Most American traditional bowmakers and bowyers have been making bows for several years, if not several decades, with hunting in mind. We're not fighting wars and shooting people with bows anymore and that's specifically what these horsebows were made to do. These bows were the weapons of war of nomadic people that lived a very tough, harsh, and often very short life. They lived in a society that afforded them the time to practice constantly with these bows because they were warriors. And these modern horsebows, I think, are made as novelties that an archer can play about with. I really don't think they're made with hunting in mind.

  I see you've "TTT'ed" several times here. So, look, I'm telling you the totally unvarnished truth here. Those horsebows look cool, yeah, but do you have the cash to go through several sets of arrows to find that perfect matched set? These bows are not centershot and are very finicky about arrows. More so than the standard recurves and longbows out there. Just one little thing off and you've got arrows flying around all over the place. I know, because this was my experience.

  I've been shooting this Martin Saber for years now and am pleased as can be with it. And, look, the principle is absolutely the same. Pull string, release, arrow moves forward. The design varies from people to people, tribe to tribe. But way back when, no one saw casualties of a battle and said, "Yeah, this guy got nailed with a horsebow. This guy over here, he got tagged with an English longbow. Check out this guy; he got doinked with some old grandpa's neolithic flatbow." Bows were made as per the needs of the people they served and the materials they had to hand. If the English had fiberglass in 1440, they'd have made fiberglass backed longbows or even recurves and avoided having to import yew from less-than-friendly nations. The tribes here in the U.S. were all about steel arrowheads the second they could get them. Again, the principle is the same. We like looks and I'm not saying it shouldn't be part of your choice. I'm just saying don't make looks the sole deciding factor. Because that's a good way to get something you'll be frustrated with.

  Really, if a person could go back in time with, say, a Martin Dreamcatcher, people in an ancient era would think the bow unusual, but not necessarily something as unusual and outlandish as, say, a compound bow. They'd think you had a lot of gold to pay some artisan bowyer to have made it for you, that's all, or that your come from some far-off tribe or people. If you went back into ancient time with a production Howard Hill longbow, most people wouldn't know any difference from what they had until they got close enough to you that they could see your eyelashes in detail.

  All I'm saying is, put your skill as an archer first. Hunting isn't job one with a bow. Shooting that bow very well is job one. Hunting comes after that. Practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.

  Anyway, good luck to you and hope this helps.
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Offline rambo1993

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2009, 06:28:00 PM »
i do hunt with real recurves i shot 2 deer this year and thanks for the input
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

Offline ibehiking

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2009, 07:20:00 PM »
I have a Grozer Hungarian of the Middle Ages for sale for $250. It is 43#@28". It is a good bow, quiet, very little hand shock with 1816 arrows. Let me know if you have any interest.

 

 

Offline rambo1993

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2009, 07:29:00 PM »
thanks but no thanks i really want the turkish junior for x'mas
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

Offline Tsalagi

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2009, 09:37:00 PM »
Soooo...by all the TTT, what else do you need to know if you've decided on the bow already? Just askin'...
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Offline rambo1993

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2009, 10:58:00 PM »
if I can put a small bow quiver on a turkish bow that is leather covered in leather and if I hunted it in winter bow that snow would ruin it thank you sooooo much
Black widow 2007 PSR 2 T/D recurve 60" 48#@28"
Bear kodiak hunter 1pc. 50x#@28" 60" style recurve
Kota Prairie Swift 1pc. 53#@28" 60"
Samick Leopard recurve T/D 50#@28" 60"

Offline Tsalagi

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #73 on: November 20, 2009, 10:16:00 AM »
The answer to that is to call and ask the manufacturer of the bow you've decided to get. That's the only way to know for sure. It also saves a lot of time from TTTing.   :D
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Offline TheFatboy

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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #74 on: November 20, 2009, 01:33:00 PM »
Just because it's a "horsebow", doesn't mean it can't be used for other purposes. Yes, they were weapons of war, which means you are most likely sacrificing accuracy for increased speed. Just gotta train some more then!
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Re: Turkish bow
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2009, 01:38:00 PM »
I, by the way, was inspired. I too find the turkish bow design interesting. So I ordered a Jr. Turkish bow, for thumb and flight shooting  :)
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.

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