My sons first bow is actually pretty special. I have a friend who tought me how to shoot traditional, that was given a bow stave by Ben Pearson. Long story short, the bow had broken and Ron used it to make Possum his first bow. Kinda cool way to get a first bow. As for keeping the arrow on the shelf, i just started my son shooting canted (as I do) from the very begining. With light poundage they dont roll the string much to pull the arrow off of the shelf. Ron has also worked some with my son to get him shooting right. It is nice to have such a guy teaching, you can learn alot from listing to a guy like Ron. He has on the Ben Pearson shoot about 20 times or more and has won the traditional 3-D "world shoot" at BPS in Springdale 3 or 4 times. He is pretty salty.