Thin Strings

[Rob DiStefano]

for flemish skinny strings, it has to be superior build technique and proper padding that'll keep 'em from too much stretch/creep.

[Bjorn]

We have been using skinny strings for about 8 months and experienced the same results as Desert Dude and others. Small increase in speed and a decent amount of noise reduction. Only negative has been the creep. We recently switched from D97 to 8125 to get less creep-so far so good.
Wonder how long this thread is gonna get   :eek:

[Greg Skinner]

I have 6 strand DF97 on several 52-56 lb bows and 8 strand on 57- 60 lb.  I don't know that I have a superior building technique, but I have not seen the creep that others have complained about. All my loops are padded with enough DF97 to total 16 strands in all of the strings regardless of strand count in the main body and the ends are braided 4 1/2 to 6 inches down from the loops.  I have them on longbows 60 to 68 inches in length, HH, ELB and mild R/D.  I like the quietness and somewhat softer shot I get with all the bows. I have been using them for close to a year (ever since O.L. came up with his findings on the skinny string thread) and I still don't see a down side.  Just my experience.

[freefeet]

I just recently dropped from 8 strands to 6 strands flemish D97 and have not got any creep whatsoever from either.

I pad to 14 strands with 12 inch lengths and twist two inches below the fade outs.  I use plenty of red Tex Tite wax.

 

Originally posted by AkDan:
so....what is the trick to building an 8 strand d97 that doesnt stretch like the dickens.

D97 doesn't stretch.      :D

[AkDan]

hmm...like I said I'll have to play some more, but thanks for the words of encourage ment.  I didnt think my strings were bad till I started dinking with skinny strings.  Who knows maybe they are   .

[Running Buck]

Good post, this is one of those subjects that will bring argument till the cows come home. The one thing that comes up from time to time is the thought that if a thin string breaks it will damage the bow. I have broken at least a half dozen strings on recurves and longbows over the years and never had any damage done to the bow. Just lucky I guess.......

[wtpops]

Originally posted by AkDan:
so....what is the trick to building an 8 strand d97 that doesnt stretch like the dickens.  

I'm going to tinker some more today with them.   I dont mind tearing one apart and rebulding it...at the price of the material (and shipping ot alaska), that's not a big deal.  But the stretching part is.   I've heard it, and kind of seen it now.   I was thinking if it did stretch a ton, I could jig it up and stretch the snot out of it...rip it apart and rebuild it, and stretch it again?

Try Ultra Cam its thiner and stronger than D97 and no where near the creep.

[Mint Hill Mule]

In my limited experience here is what I've observed. 10 strand 8125 crept more than an 8 strand D97. Remember that 8125 is the same material as D97 but half the thickness. The D97 will creep some. I make my strings with the Flem twist. A brand new string will settle about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch when put on a bow for 24 hrs. After that it will creep some requiring a couple of twist a few times over several days. Then it stops creeping. I don't pre-stretch after the string is made.

I guess in the future, I will make the string an inch shorter so I won't over twist the string.

Anyone else found this to be the case?

[X2]

I have made a lot of 12 strand strings with dynaflight 97.  From the time I finish making them I get about 3/4 to 1 inch of difference.  I stretch mine under 300 lbs of tension for about 2 hours.  After that they are pretty stable, and dont move much at all.  Some of it is just the wax in the string squeezing out, some it is stretch, and very little is creep.  I have tried dynaflight 97 down to 6 strands, but did not see that much difference, and dont think it is worth the hassle of making the smaller strings.  With the 12 strand strings, I dont have to double serve to get my nocks to fit, and I dont have to add a bunch of padding in the loops.

[Mint Hill Mule]

Forgot that I add 3 strands of each color (2color string) in the loops. 14 strands in the loops for 8 strand string