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Author Topic: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...  (Read 1261 times)

Offline Sheepshooter

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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2009, 12:04:00 AM »
Justin,

I agree with the guys that are telling you to leave out the weight tubes. I would suggest you don't want to get carried away with the weight either. For a 50 lb bow I think 550-650grn would be about right and you should be real close to that weight with the way you were gonna set up those arrows...minus the weight tubes. I shot right thru my last Alberta moose with a 520 grn carbon arrow out of a 60lb bow with a 2 blade magnus and I didn't have an EFOC like you will with your setup. That will also help penetration.


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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2009, 12:15:00 AM »
With a 50 pound bow you want to end up about 10 grns per pound or 500-550grn. With my 55# bow I used a full length arrow dynamics hammerhead tipped with a 150grn Alaska bow hunting supply samurai. Moose are not cape buffalo worry more about proper tuning than super heavy. The gentleman I got my 1963 Pearson from harvested "at least 20 moose and probably 100 Caribou" with it. The bow is 45# and he used cedar shafts tipped with a Bear razor that weighed in at right around 450grns. Today you are required to use a 50# or higher draw weight when hunting Moose in Alaska, but judging from that Ole boys trophy room 50# is overkill.

Reminder native American bows averaged between 25-30 pounds and they definitely harvested moose!
Just this Alaskan's opinion

Offline Richie Nell

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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2009, 07:11:00 AM »
Oh boy
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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2009, 09:28:00 AM »
Wow, first time I heard someone not want a passthru.

Poster is from Canada, if hunting moose in Ontario LEGAL min is 48.5lb @ 27.6 or less.

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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2009, 05:35:00 PM »
Our legal min poundage in Alberta is 40# at 28 inches. So I am more than legal. That said I have been close to Moose on several occasions (never hunting) and they sure are a intimidating sight. Alot of folks here are advocating my 10gpi cedars and have more than enough evidence to back up their claims. And I believe each and every one of them. But I have already decided to go the FMJ route for two reasons.
1) If 500 grains is good for Moose then 650 grains should be better.
2) My sister has already bought me 2 packages of Muzzy Phantoms for X-Mas. Be rude not to use em eh? lol

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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2009, 06:17:00 PM »
Maybe that's my problem..I don't use a light enough bow.
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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2009, 07:58:00 PM »
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Originally posted by David MItchell:
Justin, you mentioned the articles in TBM by Dr. Ashby.  I did read them all.....I have also noted that the staff of TBM, T. J., G. Fred Asbell, Don Thomas, all seem to be carrying wood arrows in their quivers after all the Ashby data.  They must think they work just fine, as I do.  Hope you have a great experience in your quest for a moose.  I want very much to try that myself.  You'll find that there are as many opinions here as there are participants.  That's all part of the fun.....seeing what works best for you.  Enjoy    :D  
Dr. Ashby's work isn't just about carbon arrows. It's about "extreme front of center" (E.F.O.C) weighted arrows, regardless of the material they're made of. As far as I know, those guys you mention may very well be using E.F.O.C weighted arrows made of wood.
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Offline Jason R. Wesbrock

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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2009, 09:10:00 PM »
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Originally posted by David MItchell:
Justin, you mentioned the articles in TBM by Dr. Ashby.  I did read them all.....I have also noted that the staff of TBM, T. J., G. Fred Asbell, Don Thomas, all seem to be carrying wood arrows in their quivers after all the Ashby data.  They must think they work just fine, as I do.  Hope you have a great experience in your quest for a moose.  I want very much to try that myself.  You'll find that there are as many opinions here as there are participants.  That's all part of the fun.....seeing what works best for you.  Enjoy     :D  
Dr. Ashby's work isn't just about carbon arrows. It's about "extreme front of center" (E.F.O.C) weighted arrows, regardless of the material they're made of. As far as I know, those guys you mention may very well be using E.F.O.C weighted arrows made of wood. [/b]
Based on the equipment notes they're attached to their articles, I don't think they're shooting EFOC. It takes a lot heavier head than 135 grains (or even 190 grains) to get EFOC on a wood arrow.

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Re: Moose Arrows for a 50# Bow...
« Reply #48 on: December 17, 2009, 04:56:00 PM »
Justin: FMJ's are great shafts. Phantoms are great heads. Just get them shooting straight and if you can do it at 650 grains then do it!  IMO  you are doing fine and should do well if  you get the shot. Just make sure those blades are sharp.
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