Black Widow's new PCH.....PIC THREAD

[Longbow338]

Here is the best one i took this year with the exception of one other buck with a compound at 17 yards the scored 161 7/8 I am still sick about.
 

[Jerry Wald]

Nice bow nice buck WOW - love it

jer

[Bonecracker]

17 deer in one season, 15 does with BW, one buck scoring in the high 130's- low 140's taken with BW. One buck taken with compound scored 161 7/8. Hell of a year no matter what you shot them with! Congrats Longbow338 you have a great place to hunt!

[RUSTY1]

Just received the demo. Guess I'm having the same experience Terry had with his demo. Strung it, used the nock set they had in place, nocked up a 560gr. arrow, and was grouping @ 10 yards in my basement. So far it's everything the guys have been saying about this bow I am experiencing!  Will be putting it thru it's paces this weekend.
(And sucking up to the wife as well!!!! LOL!)

Rusty

[xtrema312]

Originally posted by RUSTY1:

(And sucking up to the wife as well!!!! LOL!)

Rusty

You have three days to make a big hit on the next Hallmark holiday.  Good luck!  

[Jerry Wald]

RUSTY - pics pics

Longbow 338 - How did you ever get 17 deer tags?

That's amazing but what's more amazing is that is was possible to have that many tags.

How many freezers you got?

Jer

[RUSTY1]

Jerry, the wood combo of the demo is a little bit to be desired. The  riser is Birdseye maple and the limbs are Graybark. Didn't feel the need to take and post pics. There are alot of better looking pics already out there.
 
In the post above was about a dozen arrows worth of shooting. After dinner spent a couple more hours on and off shooting.

 And only shooting trad for a couple years now I will tell you what I at least think I am feeling about this bow.

 First I love the looks of the design. First time I ever seen a Widow in person. Wasn't to sure if I would like the looks or not. But I do.

As far as the performance goes I will compare it to the bow I got rid of, a 64" Morrison Shawnee Dakota. 56@28. This one is 56", 57@28. My draw being around 28" I knew this was probably pushing it. I think thats why I started to loose that lovin' feeling with it. I just sensed that this was just way to short. Started shootin' like crap.

The grip is an asbell. First time I've ever tried that grip. I have to say that grip fit my hand better than my old bow did.

As far as the draw weight, it wasn't near as good of draw as the shawnee was. Like it was alot heavier draw weight than my other bow. Again I am guessing the length might be the culprit there.

Any one feel free to comment on if I am correct or not on what I am experiencing. I am no way giving up on this just yet. I do like it and I think if I dropped the weight down about 5 lbs. or so and went up to a 58" or even the 60" things would be a 100% better.

Was really hoping for a shorter bow to hunt with. Even going to 60" would be better than the 64" I had.

But I guess thats why they have the demo program!!!

Rusty

[bill langer]

I have owned a couple Blackwidows. My favorite has been an early SAIII. However the new PCH that Roger, Toby and the gang built for me is awesome. Plan on shooting a few hogs and maybe a gator with it this year! In my opinion it is one fine shooting piece of art.

[Stan the bow man]

Wow i might have to get one of those PCH Like that gray bark cross grain.  

[Jerry Wald]

I have a near 28" draw and I was wondering about it myself. He even asked me if I wanted the 58".

I'm hoping it will be fine for me too...NO try before you buy program for me...jer

[xtrema312]

Originally posted by RUSTY1:
............. I think if I dropped the weight down about 5 lbs. or so and went up to a 58" or even the 60" things would be a 100% better.


But I guess thats why they have the demo program!!!

Rusty

I shot a 54, 56, 58, and 60 at Kzoo a couple weeks back.  The 54 felt way too short to me.   I could shoot it well, but I just didn't feel right.  The 56 was ok, but didn't really shine for me.  I loved the 60.  I draw 29 1/4".  I will have to try the 58" again.  I should have shot a 58" more, but just couldn't no pick up the 60" bows every time I shot one after trying them all.

[Longbow338]

Jerry Wald
There are no tags in Ms for residents one of the places I hunt is 2000acres and we are on the dmap program and harvest 45 does a year and only a couple people in the club actually shoot does but they have to be killed.  I also donate some meat and people i work with do not hunt but love deer sausage.

[Jerry Wald]

WOW gotta love that....what lamp did you rub to get that deal...tee hee.

that's great that ppl that don't hunt love the meat though.

Can you send it north please    

jer

[mooseman76]

My experiences with the PCH pretty much mirror xtrema's.  The 54" was too short for me.  The 56" handled my draw and didn't really have any pinch, but it didn't feel right.  I fell in love with the 58".  The 60" was good too, but the 58" felt best to me.  Not surprising as I shot all of their bows last year as well and the 62" PMA and 60" PSA really shined for me.  The 58" PCH has the same length limbs as these other bows so it makes sense that it really works well for me.  I have a 29" draw length.  

Rusty, I think the BW bows have a little more weight up in the beginning of the draw because of the higher brace height and may be why the bow felt heavier to you.  I always felt that BW had a little more preload, but once I got used to it, I actually prefer it...Mike

[Terry Green]

Jerry ....I answered your email....

If you need a 56" bow...I think your draw will be fine....if you don't nessesarily need the short 56"s....and are concerned...then go with the 58.

[RUSTY1]

Thanks Mike.

[23feetupandhappy]

Im with ya Rusty, I have a 27.5 draw and I trid a 54"er 50 @ 28 with an asbell grip and I just coldnt shoot it so their sending me a 56"er 45# at 28 with a standerd grip to try......I hope its the ticket  

[Jerry Wald]

Terry I talked with Roger and he thinks the 56" would work for me, but that the 58" would be smoother....so I have decided to go with the 58"

This is what he sent me:

Hey Jerry,

The 56”  will be more maneuverable in a hunting situation and the 58” will feel slightly more comfortable shooting.  When strung a 58” bow will be about 54.5” from tip to tip.  Let me know if you want to change the length.

Have a great day.

Roger Fulton

So at 54.5" strung that's pretty shot too.

Jer

[wtpops]

I havent shot a PCH yet but have shot a few widows and if your draw lenght is right at the end of the recemended for a bow, go up 2" and it will pull like butter, it will almost feel like you took 5# off. At least that has been my experience

[Jerry Wald]

Cool thanks for the input Rick...I really rely on the gang for info...i know terry is probably dreading another email from me.

It's just we do everything by email here or you check sites out and order things site unseen. You can't even by field tips here or strings and NOTHING trad.

So it's you ppl I really heavy on and the great ppl that are sponsors.

Thanks everyone for all your help so far.

Jer Bear