Brass Inserts for Legacy 2018's

[JDL]

Does anyone know where I can find inserts that will fit these arrows? The only ones I can find are for carbons...

If not, how are you guys weighting your AL arrows???

[KentuckyTJ]

Jay, last year I designed some for 340, 400 and 500 deflection aluminums and 3 rivers carries them. I believe the 2016/500 series will tightly fit in your 2018's. I'm not 100% on that so call 3 rivers and double check.

You can also p.m. Dean he will know as well as he is a buyer for 3 rivers.

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile;u=00001410

Here is the link to them.
  http://www.3riversarchery.com/product.asp?i=0255X

[JDL]

Thanks! I just sent him an e-mail. His profile says he hasn't been here in a while so if anyone else has any idea let me know! Thanks again!

[JimB]

I got the 2016 brass inserts and they are too tight for the 2018's.I did adapt them though with not much trouble.I first screwed a field point into the brass adaptor and chucked the field point in a small drill press.You could also use a drill.I turned on the drill press and used a small mill file to reduce the diameter of the insert.You need to go easy and check it often.I kept a short section of shaft handy to test for fit,one left over when I cut my shafts to length.Stop the drill press check the fit,hit with the file where needed.

It took a few minutes per insert and I can't remember the exact finished weight but app.95 grs and they were all only tenths of grs apart in weight.It was well worth doing.I like the brass inserts.

[JDL]

Awesome! If I can't find something exact that sounds like the ticket!

[JimB]

I had actually called 3 Rivers asked the same thing.The guy I talked to actually checked the inserts against a shaft,while he had me on the phone.He was the one who gave me the field point/ drill idea and it worked well.

[JRY309]

They will be too tight but you can fit them by mounting them on a point in a drill and spin and file them to fit.I did this on some brass insert for CE Heritage 90,they are slightly smaller then the standard 5/16" brass inserts.It would take much to make them fit.

[DVSHUNTER]

when using the brass inserts do you guys find that your arrows break off righ behind the insert. When I go up over about 250 up front on my 2020s,2018s, and 2117s I seem to break alot of arrows right behind the inserts. Just wondering if you all had this happen too. It just seemed like anytime I shot something that wasn't square or mayme something that was a little hard they would break.

[George D. Stout]

I don't know that front loading heavy wall aluminums is all that helpful.  Carbons are so stiff they can take a lot of front load.  A 2018 is a pretty ample arrow with a 150 out front.

[Kenneth]

I use the brass inserts in my 2016's and haven't broken any yet.  I did bend one but it never broke.  I use them for stumpin', and hunting.  The one I bent was shot at a squirrel and grazed a limb sending it sideways into the tree.

[JimB]

I have to admit I haven't beat mine up.They have only been shot at targets,so I haven't bent or broke any.They have to be stronger than aluminum,though I doubt they will help with the problem of breaking behind the insert.

[Old York]

Haven't seen the brassies yet, is there
a radius ground at the rear edge?

[BobCo 1965]

Originally posted by George D. Stout:
I don't know that front loading heavy wall aluminums is all that helpful.  Carbons are so stiff they can take a lot of front load.  A 2018 is a pretty ample arrow with a 150 out front.

Ditto, I was thinking the same thing.

Ashby also reported the same thing with his FOC tests. The aluminum shafts just didn't fly that well with high FOC's.

[JDL]

This is some great info! From what is sounds like I suspect the brass inserts might need a longer chamfer on the back end. That is interesting about the AL's and FOC. I guess I need to read up on that...