Take-down systems??

[amar911]

Originally posted by IndianaBowman:
[QB] This TimberHawk system works great and is rock solid. I'm putting gator on the grip.

That is the Bow Bolt system on the TimberHawk. I have 5 bows with Bow Bolts, from about 50# up to almost 70#. All of them are rock solid. Four are Shrews and one is a Holm-Made -- all longbows. All of them are made with laminated materials, either phenolic or Dymondwood or a combination of phenolic and exotic hardwoods, so the risers are very strong compared to a solid piece of wood. There has only been one Shrew with a Bow Bolt that has ever come apart, and that one had a solid Gaboon Ebony riser. That choice proved to be a mistake, so now Gregg Coffey will not build risers like that which may not stand the stresses of the Bow Bolt. The Bow Bolt itself is very strong and should not ever be a problem if the risers are designed and constructed to handle the stress. I don't know if Chad Holm has ever had a failure of a bow with a Bow Bolt, but I do know that he also limits the materials he will use in a riser with a Bow Bolt. I love the function and simplicity of the Bow Bolt. Properly installed it is a great, reliable system.

The only other two piece system that appeals to me personally is the socket system that Big Jim and Black Widow use. I would not hesitate to purchase a bow with that form of takedown mechanism. It is one of the simplest and most rugged for the owner and has the advantage over the Bow Bolt of not having threads that can be damaged themselves or cause damage to the other end of the bow or adjacent objects. I do think there might be more flexibility in the design of the grip when using the Bow Bolt than the socket system, but I'm not sure of that. I do like the looks of Big Jim's and Black Widow bows with the socket system, especially Jim's bows. It sounds like the socket system may be the best two piece takedown option of any for really heavy poundage bows based on what Jim tells us.

Allan

[jdemoya]

How much weight does the socket system add to the riser? Thanks.

God bless,

José

[Steelhead]

Thunderhorn has an amazing 2 piece design that never gets much mention.Maybe because not many guys have had the oppurtunity to see one.It is expensive though to have done.You end up with a riser with all the wood showing  in the grip area and it can be custom shaped to the buyers requests.Its hardly noticable that its a 2 piece.

Like others I have been very happy with the Widow and Big Jims style of TD.

The brass and metal sleeve done by Wallace and Fox are also very good and come with a locator style grip thats comfortable.That system adds more weight than the others that some archers may find desirable.I had the fox Breed and did like it alot as far as function,strength,durabilty and grip.

Jack Harrisons newer 2 piece looks superbly designed as well.

You certainly cant leave out the jacknife in a discusson of 2 piece bows by great Northern.It has stood the test of time.It can be made with a locator grip as well.Simple,strong and functional.

[BigJim]

The carbon/fiberglass adds very little weight. I would say un noticeable since no one knows my 2 piece are two piece unless they are apart. heavy bows still weigh more and light bows are still light. weight is more dependent on type of wood and size of bow than the takedown.
I have never had anyone tell me that my bows were heavy no matter what design unless they were talking about my go to. What would you expect of a 86# bow with a bow quiver full of 800g arrows. lol

Bigjim

[Mark in SC]

The only two piece takedown I have uses the Bevelok, I would not recommend it.

[Rob DiStefano]

that big jim sleeve system is a-callin' me ....

[lovethehunt]

I am glueing up a new bow now,64" with a little reflex to it with a zebrawood riser and two phenolic accent stripes in it. I want to try the fiberglass sleeve, is carbon necessary? Where can I get it.

[cgeiser]

Rob,

In one of your pics of the Mohawk with sure grip it looks like the connexion hinge is screwed on the back of the bow. In other pics, like the onesyou have wig the leather grip, it appears the long part of the hinge (the part that takes the screws) is recessed so it is flush with the back of the bow. Is this correct? If so, does it seem to be in the way at all when mounted outside the lams as in the sure grip pic?

I'm wondering as with a retrofit it seems relatively easy to install over the back lams but difficult to recess in the lams.

Thanks,
Che

[TxAg]

I didn't read the whole thread, but I can vouch for the bow-bolt system and rubber grib. I use that system on my Toelke. Can't even tell it's a two piece. I'm a big fan!

[Pete W]

I am very pleased and impressed with the system Abe at Cari-bow uses.The key slot on the sides is an added alignment .
 

 

[HATCHCHASER]

Vince told me he uses overlays to smooth out the recessed part of the take down.  The one with sure grip may not have the overlays.  I like the looks of the connection hinge and Big Jim's system.