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Author Topic: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?  (Read 621 times)

Offline twostrings

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2010, 07:46:00 PM »
I always kick myself for not doing more of it.

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2010, 09:12:00 PM »
Oh yah, it's very important.  I especially like to get out when there's been snow on the ground for a few days.
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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2010, 09:23:00 PM »
Every trip into the woods you will learn something. All my scouting is done and stands will be hung as soon as we leaf out so my trimming will be good until fall. I tend to hunt close to bedding areas and they won't change.

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2010, 09:44:00 PM »
I believe late season scouting is worth the effort as is scouting anytime of year. One advantage of late season scouting is that you can get a different perspective of your hunting area because of the ability to see the lay of the land better, especially with snow on the ground. I don't think you'll necessarily "pattern" deer for fall hunting opportunities as these patterns will usually change before the season based on food, water sources, and unexpected human interference. For me, some of the advantages of post season scouting is the opportunity of finding sheds, getting exercise, and best of all enjoying the winter woods experience.   :)
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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2010, 04:46:00 AM »
This IS the time to scout!

We had all our new fall 2010 locations picked for natural ground blinds by Feb.1.

We've timbered our place in stages over the last 15 years, so the deer travel is constantly changing, but our hilly/wet topography also funnels deer in some constant places too.

I would feel naked going into spring snowmelt without having walked the whole property at least once.

I have a rule at my property that all "on foot" scounting ENDS by Aug. 1, with one big bedding area being off limits year round, and it has proven to be very productive.

I typically like to have all natural cover "blind" locations scouted, up and assembled and trimmed by July 4, when time permits. Those spots are always selected in January.

I really can't stress how important post season scounting is. That's why I joke that "deer season never ends, only deer killing season does". Deer season goes on all year.

Come August, I'd suggest still scouting, but hands off scounting. A pickup truck, binocs or a spotting scope are your best tools then. And if scouting bucks, the crack of daylight with the cool temps is typically the best time for truck scouting. Dusk scouting in August can certainly reveal bucks, but my experience is like 15-1 buck sightings favoring the cool temps of the crack of daylight to the first hour of daylight.

If you opt for "on foot" pre-season scouting close to season and if you're banging around your hunting grounds in late August and September, you're bumping deer that you don't know are there and you'll never see.

I read a study I believe was either in Deer and Deer Hunting or the QDMA magazine where they had put radio collars on free ranging deer. They quietly bumped them out of bedding area's on purpose to see how far they went on average. The average deer went something like 600-800 yards before stopping and lingering, some well farther. Well, that's off most people's property unless they have a huge parcel. I also seem to recall almost none of the deer were scene by the bumpers.

The bottom line is, if you bump deer out of a bedding sanctuary they feel secure in now, there's no great harm 6 months from now. You do that in late August or even worse a week or two pre-season, you've done yourself no favors at that location.

The same is true for your scent being all over the locations. If a deer crosses your path now and blows the alarm, no big harm. Come Aug/Sept and you cross the secondary trail, that you didn't know was there but that deer uses every day and it blows the alarm, you might be watching squirrels come opening day, wondering why that great looking location never seems to produce.

And I am a fan of using spray scent eliminators even if they offer only marginal scent killing. But those sure aren't foolproof. If you spend anytime at all on or near a deer trail, even if you didn't know you crossed it, you're leaving scent. You walk into a thicket bedding area and you're pushing branches away from your face and branches are swiping your body as you go thru, you're leaving scent.

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 05:14:00 AM »
I scout only post season.I do not scout at all before the season.No need to because I already know where they have been the following fall by scouting now.Any scouting I do before or during hunting season is mostly just paying attention when hanging stands and going back and forth hunting them.

After I have hunted a place a couple seasons there is no need to scout unless something changes to effect the deer.If an area is logged or new houses built in an area it can change movement and I might need to look around.Otherwise deer are just like cows and go to the same food sources and once you know about those it is just a matter of hunting.

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2010, 06:57:00 AM »
In a couple of my areas it is worth it to scout now. We have had several feet of snow on the ground since December, so it is real easy to find well used trails.  Their movement is similar now as it is in the fall.  I strap on some snow shoes and get out and get some well needed exercise.  I can get a real rough idea of how many survived gun season by looking for fresh sign.  I find it easier to find rublines now, too.  I stay out of their bedding areas, though.  With the heavy snow, I don't want to disturb what few deer are here if they are bedded down.
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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2010, 07:10:00 AM »
I'm was always in the woods anyway and thought I was doing a good job but I didn't no what I was missing till I started scouting year round with trail cameras. Wow! There was a ton of deer(Other critters too) I had no idea were even in the same woods.

I never believed that a buck could be completely nocturnal either but I had several in the last couple of years. Good breeders for sure but hard to kill so I'm always trying to find there sheds.

Like everybody is saying right now is a great time to be out there, You can always pull some of your stands, Do some stump shooting and scout the turkeys for the spring season. At least that's what I tell my wife anyway  :D  

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2010, 07:24:00 AM »
For sure it is important... I do most of mine between Jan and April 1st.  

Easy to see what is happening without the foliage in the way.  Get out and scout, take notes, carry a compass ( for prevailing winds/stand sets)...

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2010, 07:34:00 AM »
Hey Biggie, becareful Of snow snakes very active with fresh snows an not slowed down at all,:>)Bob

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2010, 07:56:00 AM »
I'm scouting whenever I'm in the woods. I DON'T scout much when bow season is on.....so my scouting trips usually include a beagle and rabbits.

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2010, 12:34:00 PM »
Leatherneck....oh yeah? This is our number one food plot last Saturday. Still had sourghum standing.

 

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2010, 01:44:00 PM »
I LOVE post season scotting in the snow!

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2010, 02:54:00 PM »
I must admit I do a lot of winter scouting. I do most of my Deer hunting pre-rut, so I mostly rely on food sources that are available at that time, but even as I check a trapline through January and squirrel hunt in February, I am still scouting for next year's deer hunting.
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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2010, 03:48:00 PM »
GOOD GOD snow snakes I'll be staying in.   :scared:

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2010, 04:34:00 PM »
The main reason I like it is it's a lot easier to see rubs now than it is to see yr old rubs.

I have also found spots where big bucks have moved in during late season and can plan to hunt those areas late the next season.

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Re: Post season scouting. Is it worth it?
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2010, 05:02:00 PM »
Always good to get out anyway.....now is a good time to find bedding areas for all kinds of animals and make a map for next season.

What's good about it is that your not in HUNTING mode so much and you can concentrate on feeding areas and bedding areas...winds cover etc,

I used to feel alot of pressure about the hunting during the season so alot of my scouting was after the season.

PS - it's hard to find alot of the good places PRE-SNOW....unless you know your quarry well...so it's a great time to figure there patterns out

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