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Author Topic: weight of water vs weight of filter  (Read 682 times)

Offline wtpops

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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #20 on: March 02, 2010, 02:03:00 PM »
Both Cryptosporidium and Giardia Lamplia are cysts found in the intestins of warm blooded animals, cas, dogs, birds, cows, beavers, deer and sheep. And both are very resistant to chemical disinfection such as iodine and or chlorine. Just about the only way to rid these from water is filtration or boiling the water for 5 min. Only about 1/3 of the people who ingest these will show symptoms, but after about 2 days those 1/3 will leave their hunt for a hospital.

Symptoms of infection include (in order of frequency) diarrhea, malaise, excessive gas (often flatulence or a foul or sulphuric-tasting belch, which has been known to be so nauseating in taste that it can cause the infected person to vomit), steatorrhoea (pale, foul smelling, greasy stools), epigastric pain, bloating, nausea, diminished interest in food, It usually causes "explosive diarrhea" and while unpleasant, is not fatal.
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Offline bearsfeet

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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #21 on: March 02, 2010, 02:49:00 PM »
iodine is the way to go! then take some of  those packets of emergance c or gatorade and your good to go! I tryed a filter but its bulky and kind of a waste IMO.
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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2010, 07:25:00 PM »
I use the Katadyn and really like it. I will disagree with the guys who say there are times you dont need any purification system. Well, for hunting whitetails 100 yards from truck or camp is fine, but not in the backcountry. You never know if you might have to dump your entire water supply on an open wound. Not to mention, dehydration sneeks in rather suddenly.

For any kind of backcountry trip, always have something to purify water.
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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2010, 07:28:00 PM »
Whatever happened to good old Iodine tablets...LOL
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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2010, 07:33:00 PM »
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Originally posted by wtpops:
...Both Cryptosporidium and Giardia Lamplia are cysts found in the intestins of warm blooded animals, cas, dogs, birds, cows, beavers, deer and sheep.


And both are very resistant to chemical disinfection such as iodine and or chlorine.


 Just about the only way to rid these from water is filtration or boiling the water...
I think that sums up the iodine question. If you check his profile you'll see Rick works in the water/wastewater industry.
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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2010, 07:40:00 PM »
That stinks that's what they gave me in the Marines when we went to the orient...LOL
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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2010, 09:16:00 AM »
I have used a sweetwater for years but have been looking at upgrading to something that will get out virus too meeting EPA standards. I have used the pills alot too but I have a strong gut. One I have looked at First Need Puriification device around $90. the only pump I know thats meets EPA. It's 16 oz not much more weight than you what but not chemicals or batteries. The SteriPen Adventurer is 3.6 oz(without batteries) around $100. It uses UV rays so no clogging ,chemicals ,ect.. and meets EPA standards. Katadyn makes bottle mounted ones that uses chemicals that meet EPA standards $30-$40 and good for 100 gals. These are the ones I have looked at on my search I hope it helps you.

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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #27 on: March 03, 2010, 12:03:00 PM »
Some of us shouldn't or can't use idodine.... thyroid issues....

Filter, Boil, other chemicals are the only safe way I can go...

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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2010, 12:13:00 PM »
A sweetwater or similar filter will be a great asset. I've used them in the back country for YEARS. generally speaking, most bodies of water in the US will be drinkable after filtration for bacteria. The more expensive filters also get out viruses but that doesn't become an issue until you are in the third world or if you are dealing with waters that may have been contaminated by failed septic systems or similar pollutants.

The finer the filtration the more the filter will cost and the longer filtration will take. Whatever model you choose, be prepared for some patience as filtering takes time. That being said, I'm sure you'll experience, as I have, that some of the best tasting water you'll have in your life will be filtered while in your hunting grounds. It'll be fresh, crisp and it'll be less trouble than carrying all the water you need for the full trip.
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Re: weight of water vs weight of filter
« Reply #29 on: March 03, 2010, 12:18:00 PM »
Oh and by the way, you DO NOT want Giardia! I picked up the bug while traveling in Bali and were it not for the antibiotics I think I would have wanted to end it all right there and then. Seriously one of the most painful and intense experiences of my life. Don't skimp on clean water.
(A bacteria filter will do it - MSR, Sweetwater, etc.)
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