I have had excellent luck with em, and its hard to argue a broadhead thats stood the test of time! Heck they even out lasted the Bear Razorhead and have been out longer than the Howard Hill, thats gotta be worth something! My first 6 pack of the 145gr Ace Standards lasted for 4 hunting seasons! I shot 3 deer, 3 turkeys, and not to mention alot of small game and stumps with the same broadhead! I knew it was the same one as it had hardly any paint on it, but still held a good edge with a 6" Grobet file and a Jewel Stick!