my hats off to all you folks who shoot off the hand. imho its not the easiest thing to do, i am getting better at it . i have to make a concious effort to do everything right . holding the bow is very important and holding it the same way every time, aiming is a little different , bow is not center shot, im having to remember what the arc of the arrow looks like at certain distances. arrow spine has been a crucial factor. i just learned i can go 5 # less with the same length shaft and same grain poit? broad head to get better flight. so its basically taken me almost a year to learn how to shoot off the hand . what a learning experiece! it really has been like learning how to shoot all over again