Dryad ILF riser finally ready for production

[wisconsin wood butcher]

christmas in march yeeaaah!

[Lenny Stankowitz]

Wingnut:

Some time ago there was a lot of concern about limbs being overstressed and failing on shorter ILF risers.  Are you concerned at all about that with your 15" or your future 17" riser?  A couple years ago, that's all you read about, but now everyone seems go be coming out with shorter and shorter ILF models, apparently with no problems.

Was that just an "old wive's tale" or is there anything to it?

[vermonster13]

These folks coming out with the shorter risers are also building limbs designed specifically for the loads they'll have and adjusting the limb beds for a different preload. The concerns were for the older limbs designed for the longer risers. Putting a limb made for a 23" riser onto a 15" riser would be like drawing that limb 36" on the 23" riser. There were failures when the weight increases went above 10#s on these limbs. Folks learned and have adjusted to meet the demands of the hunting length risers.

Very nice riser wingnut and I like the look of your static tip ILFs too.

[Lenny Stankowitz]

Originally posted by vermonster13:
These folks coming out with the shorter risers are also building limbs designed specifically for the loads they'll have and adjusting the limb beds for a different preload.

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With all due respect, that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.  If that were the case, then only the limbs designed by Wingnut could be used on that riser.  That defeats the whole ILF concept, does it not?  Are you implying that you shouldn't use limbs from the major manufacturers on this riser?  I have three different sets of limbs from three different manufacturers.  I'd like to think I could use them on this riser if I chose to.

I'd still like to hear from Wignut on this one.

 :confused:

[vermonster13]

You can use any limbs you like, and it does make sense. 12#s is the max weight over the marked weight you should ever do on the ILF limbs on any riser. That has pretty much proven to be the point where failures increase. Never said you could just use wingnuts limbs on his risers, any ILF should work, just keep the load within the safe parameters.

[Lenny Stankowitz]

Originally posted by vermonster13:
12#s is the max weight over the marked weight you should ever do on the ILF limbs on any riser. That has pretty much proven to be the point where failures increase.  

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Oh, ok...I see what you're saying.  I'm still confused though.  Like I said, I have bought three sets of limbs from three different makers (Hoyt, Sebastian Flute, and Samick) and they never said that they shouldn't be used on risers less than a certain length or mentioned anything about poundage over the marked weight.  

In the sue happy world we live in now, I'd think they would put a warning on them if there was a concern.

[vermonster13]

They aren't marketing those limbs to these risers either and it is such a small percentage of the business for those manufacturers except in some specific cases it isn't hardly a blip on the radar.

This thread has been hijacked more than enough, perhaps a new thread is warranted about this that doesn't take away from Mike's new riser discussion.

Sorry Mike. Like I said very nice riser at a very nice price.

[wingnut]

Lenny,

We have shot this riser with a lot of different manufactures limbs.  Like David said, if you follow the guidelines for weight, you will not have a problem.

Our riser is +5 pounds so if you want to match a specific limb at a specific weight calculate the weight gain for riser length and add five pounds.

Ours is less aggressive then some others out there that are +10.

Mike

[pseman]

Just when I thought I finally didn't want any new bows for a while.    Very nice! Is a solid phenolic riser an option?

[Lenny Stankowitz]

Thanks Wingnut.  I wasn't trying to hijack the thread, just wanted the opinion of someone who actually makes them.  I thought it was a pretty relevant question because there are a lot of people out there like myself that are sitting on different sets of ILF limbs that would like to know if they will work on your riser.  I'm  guessing that a lot of people that buy your riser will buy it to use with limbs they already have.  

Still learning a lot about this stuff, thanks for you opinion.

[wingnut]

Mark,

Yes you can get a phenolic riser, but we do not do a solid phenolic.  We take it apart and put it back together with glass to help stiffen it.

Mike

[SHOOTO8S]

I got the chance to see this riser come to life, while staying with the Dryad crew in Texas....really nice grip and contours!

[Steve Clandinin]

I really like the looks of that Recurve,its got POWER written all over it,i'm definately a Curve man.Mike what lengths are offered in the curve with that riser?

[trashwood]

I got to shoot the riser last weekend. Mike had a pair of ILF longbow limbs on it. from looking at the rig you woulld not really think of an ILF bow. very nicely designed.

the sight window was cut passed center I think. it put the arrows right down the center line for me. I was shooting ligther weight target arrows. holding point on at the 40 yd elk 2D target i had a nice group right above the back in line with the KZ. I moved my aiming point to right under the chest. OH YA! Dryad has got a killer rig

rusty
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[trashwood]

I got to peek in ever so often during the design of this riser. The first concern was stiffness, espcially in the sight window area. to make a lot of ILF shooters happy the riser would need to be cut past center (at least to keep me happy). that is harder than you think. you just can't take material off the inside of the sight window. that would let the riser torque thsu head for a busted riser sooner or later.

A lot of r&d went into the riser . The next phase was cosmetic look of the riser. Jason is great at spacial visualazation. His goal was cearly to have all the structual integraty necessary and have a tradtional wooden riser look.

That was lots of wooden chips and CNC code. I had never thouht about the accuracy the CNC machine adds to the build and design of a riser till I got to watch the process. You get limbs and riser that are inline. Inline and every possible milligram of extra weight removed and balanced on the center. Ya know what ya get. efficiency and speed

great job guys

rusty
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[cacciatore]

Congrats Mike it looks to be a very well designed riser.

[Pinecone]

Great looking bow.  Love the lines of that recurve.

Claudia

[wingnut]

Curve lengths on the Epic 15 inch are 56, 58, 60, and 62.  Longbow limbs will make it: 58, 60, 62, and 64.

Mike