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Author Topic: Fastflight vs Dacron  (Read 336 times)

Offline magnus

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Fastflight vs Dacron
« on: April 03, 2010, 08:35:00 AM »
Got my first long bow always been a recurve man. Bow has a fastflight string. String is very thin and sounds like a guitar string when strung. I haven't been able to tune bow yet waiting on some supplies. Wondering if a Dacron string would be quieter. I use hush puppies and shoot a heavier arrow. I know that that will help quiet it down. Never shot fastflight and  long bow newbie. Thanks for listening!
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2010, 08:52:00 AM »
For me I prefer a FF type string on my longbows,and I get my longbows just as quiet.A dacron string on some longbows can increase handshock on the bow.The bow feels more solid with a FF type string and not springy like with dacron.They are many different types of FF type strings like D97,8125,450+,Ultra Cam,TS1 Plus and etc.Some can sound louder then the next one,it's just finding the one that fits best.But a well made padded loop FF type string can be quieter then a dacron string.For me the only bows I shoot a dacron string on is a few older recurves I have,but rarely shoot them.JMO

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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2010, 08:56:00 AM »
I prefer FF too on my longbow. Try SBD strings! They shoot just great, make your bow faster and are very silent. Craftmanship all the way.  http://www.sbdbowstrings.com/
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2010, 12:22:00 PM »
For me,so far,the FF strings have been quieter than dacron on every bow that I have used both on.I believe it is because there is a lot more vibration,for a longer time,with dacron.Play with your brace height till you find that spot where it is most qiet and I bet that setup will be plenty quiet.Just plucking the string won't tell you much but shooting will.

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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2010, 01:45:00 PM »
Im just the opposite, I have shot ff strings and believe they are noisier, so I shoot dacron on my longbows. I've never noticed any handshock on my Howard Hill bows with dacron.

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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2010, 05:37:00 PM »
for the optimum in performance and quietness on release, all bows are gonna need some amount of string, arrow and silencer testing.

neither dacron, nor hmpe, nor flemish, nor endless matters - all that matters is your testing. with your bow, and with you pulling the string and letting go.  trad bows are just that unique.
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2010, 05:54:00 PM »
Had only one FF string and didn't care for it. Couldn't get it quiet on my bow. My Savannah likes my Dacron just fine and with some Cat wiskers, the only sound is my 2018 beating the spots off of my target.

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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2010, 09:15:00 PM »
All my longbow buddies shoot FF of some type with wool or yarn on the string. Their bows are silent. When I try it I can't seem to find the right combo and it just don't work for me. B-50 works for me, on longbows, and recurves. The only bow that FF ever seemed to make a differance was on my old Bear Montana, that old girl don't care what string is on it. Old timers I talk to say stick with B-50,so I stick with B-50.
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2010, 10:03:00 PM »
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Originally posted by ron w:
... Old timers I talk to say stick with B-50,so I stick with B-50.
i'm an old timer and i say baloney - don't get pigeon holed into any kinda string fiber, use whatever the works best and what the bow will allow.
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2010, 10:58:00 PM »
Thanks all. When supplies get here I'll be busy n see what happens.
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2010, 12:17:00 AM »
what kind of longbow do you shoot some styles are louder than others!

dacron to me is too heavy and adds handshock to a longbow!

do you shoot 3 under or split?
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2010, 07:28:00 AM »
The bow is  r/d made by Dave at Seigeworks. 65" 45@28 around 50 at my draw. I shoot split finger
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2010, 09:46:00 AM »
The old timers I talked to didn't like the extra stress FF could put on the limbs. Their thought was that the "give" in B-50 was easier on the bow.  As far as hand shock I have not seen where a string makes a difference, brace height yes.
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2010, 09:57:00 AM »
Just tune your bow and put some silencers on the string.Once tuned it will get a lot quieter and a couple of string silencers will take care of the string noise.If it is not quiet enough with that string I would be looking a replacment bow instead of going to b-50 myself.  :)   jmo
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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2010, 09:59:00 AM »
Guess I'd have to consider myself an old timer, too.  Been shooting sticks for more than 50 years.  I, too, have made the switch to fast flite type strings.  That extra "give" with dacron translates into less energy transmitted to the arrow and more of the bow's energy dissipated through limb vibration.  The extra forward push/vibration of the limbs is what causes hand shock.  In stopping the limbs abruptly, fast flite materials definitely reduce hand shock.  To my way of thinking, stopping the limbs more abruptly at the end of the power stroke is also easier on the bow.  Fast flite type materials only become a danger to the bow if the loops aren't padded (and thus the tendency for the hard,skinny string to saw off the tips) and or the limb tips aren't built up suitably to handle the fast flite material.

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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2010, 10:15:00 AM »
If the bow is built to shoot fast flight by all means shoot fast flight. B-50 on some fast flight bows will actually make them noisier. Super string leeches will help.I like silencers that go into the string and not just on the string. A skinny string will greatly improve quietness  too. Some "old timers" actually are putting skinny strings on their non fast flight bows with much success. As long as the string has a heavy padded loop they say they have no problem with the string or bow.When all else fails shoot woodies out of her. Proper brace height and  nock height. Is the noise because the arrow is hitting the shelf? Sloppy nocks[loose] make a bow noisey too.Hope I helped.

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Re: Fastflight vs Dacron
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2010, 11:10:00 AM »
Yall have helped a lot.! As usual! Looking forward to tuning. Hopefully will have time this week.please keep all advice and input coming. Hundreds of years experience in this group. Thanks all! Magnus
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