Grizzly Stick Question

[sean boyer]

hi  guys ( and girls)

does  anyone  know how important it  is to find
the ' seam '  that Ed talks about  in  his instructions that come with  the arrow ?   And then  align it  Opposite  the site window ?  will it  cause jacked up  arrow flight if you don't ??

[Chris Surtees]

Sean,

I would call Ed about this. They are his shafts and he can tell you all you need to know.

Have some Sitkas and they are great shafts. I did follow Ed's directions and have no issues with them.

Best,
Chris

[bjk]

Call Ed and discuss, but I do beleive finding the weak and stiff edge is important.  These are basically fishing rods and depending on where you wanted the power stroke, you'd align the weak or strong edge.

It's easy to find (although more difficult to explain)  give Ed a call, he has likely explained it a hundred times.

[sean boyer]

Thank  you   keep  it  comin  fellas !!

[The Whittler]

What do you do line it up like a wood shaft? Alan

[TJ Jones]

Should the spine go in towards the bow or out away from the bow?

[katman]

Finding the seam and orienting all the arrows the same is critical with grizzlysticks for me. One good thing is if you line the seam up perpendicular to the string and the arrow is to stiff you can change the seam position by rotating the nock and weakening the arrow some, I switched the nocks to G nocks for this purpose.
I found if the spine is lined up with the cock feather you can shoot the arrow cock in or out and it does not change the spine. Putting the cock feather up would weaken the spine.

[TRADITIONAL ONLY]

i never could find the seam like he stated, so i said the hell with it and fletched them and it may be a problem, cause sometimes last weekend they would drop and swirl VERY wierd like before hitting the target...

[katman]

Screw in the field point put the nock end in your palm and the tip on the table, angle the shaft about 30 degrees off the table push down in the middle of the shaft with your free palm to put a good flex in it and roll the point forward and back, you will feel the stiff/seam side with increased resistance to rolling, after a couple of tries it is very easy. Line the nock up to the seam and when you fletch the cock feather will be on the seam/stiff side.

[jonsimoneau]

Yes, you need to find it.  The easiest way that I have found is to gently roll the shafts on a glass table.  By roll them, I mean give them a push and let them roll themselves.  When they stop rolling the stiff size will be the side touching the table, or the lower side.  This is because there is more carbon on this side.  This method works everytime and is much easier than trying to feel it.

[TJ Jones]

G-nocks will work in these? The rolling on a glass table is a neat idea. I'll have to try it.

[TRADITIONAL ONLY]

i need to get some of those nocks, i HATEW the kind that they came with, i like the Uni-nock system by Easton....

[TJ Jones]

Here's a way I found to find the spine that worked good for me. Put the nock end up 5" or 6" on a smooth piece of metal and the point on a smooth piece of metal. Take a smooth piece of wood ( 1x2 or something like it) and use that to roll the arrow back and forth while pressing down on the shaft. I can really feel the jump this way. The jump in the Alaskan shaft is so slight that I couldn't feel it rolling the shaft with my palms.

[TRADITIONAL ONLY]

that makes sense, i alwas felt it jump when it fell into a crease in my hands...

[Bjorn]

Finding the stiff side is critical. The 'palm and hand' method did not work for me so I put the shaft in my spine tester and 'Presto'.

[Naphtali]

This information is exceptionally confusing. To me, the presence of a seam requiring special attention implies the shaft is unbalanced at the seam, that finding the seam is analogous to finding the imbalance point on a new tire, then balancing it on its rim.

Do all carbon shafts have seams that require "balancing" like GrizzlyStiks? Do all tapered carbon shafts? If not, why are GrizzlyStiks different?

[katman]

The Easton ACC-28 unibushing fits the rear of the arrow on the grizzlystick Sitka's, then push in the G nock and your good to go. I glued my uni's in with  the hot melt glue as the uni's are a little loose.

Naphtali, messing around with the prominent seam and getting them tuned is why I am drifting away from the grizzylsticks, I am using them for 3D now for the large front diameter, should be a while before I loose them all.

[TRADITIONAL ONLY]

the G nocks are the Axis nocks right?
ever since the went to ST arras, i aint bought any.... that being b/c they changed them after i bought my Carbon Excell's last year.... this year when i bought dad som Epic ST's i was totlatly lost...

but the Epic nocks are too big too...

i really need to buy a arrow spinner and a lot of other crap...