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Author Topic: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?  (Read 236 times)

Offline fnshtr

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Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« on: May 29, 2010, 09:34:00 PM »
I'm shooting 28 1/2" Traditional Only (400) carbons and would like to bump the weight up considerably. Does anyone have experience with the weight tubes for these arrows?  :confused:  

The 400's are 9.1 gpi and I have already purchased the 100 grain brass inserts. I shoot 125 grain woodsman heads, but am considering going to a two blade. I am hoping to get an arrow to about 550 grains.

Any experience (good or bad) that you would be willing to share?
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Feel free to pm me.

Thanks,
Wayne
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Offline fnshtr

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2010, 07:14:00 AM »
Thanks for the pm's guys. I think you all have me on the right track.  :thumbsup:
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Offline 3arrows

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2010, 06:41:00 PM »
Weight tubes knock the nock off when hitting something hard,plus they make noise.Try putting something in them,i like instant coffee or ground.
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Offline Hookeye

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2010, 11:26:00 PM »
If wanting to run weight tubes, couldn't one use a little glue gun adhesive at the insert end to attach the tube at the front?

Soft to some degree, doesn't break the joint in shock like full hard set adhesives.

I've not run weight tubes, but for inserts and added weights, do run the glue stick type of softer adhesive in my carbons. Have for years, allows for easy mods without damaging the shafts, seems to hold the inserts in just fine.

Of course weights added to my insert do mean more glue over a larger area, so that might be why it's worked well for me (and not be fully attributed to adhesive type).
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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2010, 09:31:00 AM »
If you crimp the weight tubes with needle nose pliers as recommended it takes care of the noise problems and reduces the nock problem.
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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2010, 09:36:00 AM »
"Weight tubes knock the nock off when hitting something hard..."

3arrows: You are the second person to mention that.

Has anyone else found a solution to this problem other than using different material?

I've used weed-whacker string with varying results and am looking for something better.

Thanks for the comments all.
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Offline fnshtr

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2010, 09:39:00 AM »
Thanks metsastaja... I was posting and didn't see your post until after I hit "enter".
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Offline Cookus

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2010, 10:49:00 AM »
Three Rivers also has a video on the crimping process on their web site under the weight tubes.
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Offline Smallwood

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2010, 11:23:00 AM »
they knock out your nocks on impact alot of times and seem to change the dynamic spine of the shaft. Sounds to me like your current setup is ready to kill, without the tubes.imo

Offline featherhorn

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2010, 11:35:00 AM »
I use weight tubes in my arrows i had to glue my tubes and nocks in so they wouldnt eject out when i shot a hard stump and so far that has worked best for me

Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2010, 11:44:00 AM »
The lightweight tubes (2-3 gpi) work well for me anyway, the heavier ones seem more likely to mess with your tune.
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Offline Ragnarok Forge

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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2010, 11:29:00 PM »
Run the head weight up and forget the tubes.
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Re: Weighting Traditional Only Carbons?
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2010, 09:34:00 AM »
Thanks for all the advice. I'll experiment and settle for one of the options given.

Thanks again!
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