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Author Topic: Arrow selection Help  (Read 267 times)

Offline mathews4ever

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Arrow selection Help
« on: July 14, 2010, 04:08:00 AM »
My Grandfather gave me his old Bear Kodiak Special and I was wondering if you could give me some help narrowing down the arrow choices. What I need to know is what spine shaft everyone thinks I should go with and how heavy of a broadhead. Right now I am shooting a 29" carbon shaft with a static spine of .400 and a 150gr fieldtip. This setup shoots OK but I think with the help of some experienced trad archers I could really be driving tacks.

Here is the situation. It is a 66" Kodiak special that is pulling 43# at 28"(my draw length). I am going to shoot Beman ICS Bowhunter shafts because they are cheap and I have found them to be very durable. I am going to use a 20gr lighted nock and an arrow wrap(10gr). I will be using 3 5" feathers with a heavy helical. I have already chosen a broadhead but I am unsure of weight. I will be using a grizzly customized to Dr. Ashby's specifications. I would like to stay around 10gpp and keep FOC as high as possible.

Last but not least, is there any reason that the setup I mentioned would struggle to cleanly harvest whitetail deer. I am an experienced bowhunter that would not take a shot past 20 yards and will only take broadside or quartering-away shots.
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2010, 09:28:00 AM »
That is a fairly stiff arrow for that weight bow but with enough point weight you could get it tuned but they will probably be more than 10 grains per inch.

I have a 62" Grizzly that weight and use 5575 Gold Tips which are 400 spine and 29".I need to use a 14 gr insert plus a broadhead/insert weight of 235 grs.I have cap wraps and 3 5" feathers also.Total arrow weight is 569 grs.249 grs of that on the front end.Grains per pound is 12.6 and FOC is 21%.

I used a 160 gr broadhead and a 75 gr Premium steel adaptor.

Your bow will definitely kill deer with a well placed shot and sharp broadhead.If you get the new Grizzly broadheads,you don't have to modify them.

Oh,and my shafts are 30".Yours might take more weight up front to dial them in.

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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2010, 11:22:00 AM »
I shoot the 400 spine ICS Bowhunters out of my 55# recurve cut to 29" with a total of 275 grains up front.  With weight tubes and the 250 grain field tips/broadheads, they come in at about 11.3 gpp with 21.5% foc.  

Sometimes staying at 10 gpp is difficult if you are starting out with a shaft that is pretty stiff for your draw weight.  I would just try to get them flying like darts and hitting right where you look, then figure out what the gpp and foc is with that setup and as long as it falls in the 9-?? gpp range with a decent foc, your good to go.  Good clean arrow flight is the goal, and in the end, thats what matters most.
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2010, 11:38:00 AM »
I'd suggest .600's left long and I'd expect you'll need pretty heavy points with those, or a .700 with less point weight.
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2010, 04:09:00 PM »
I'm sorry if I misled any of you. I am going to buy new shafts soon. I just mentioned the 400s so that you would know where I was at.
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Offline Bill Carlsen

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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2010, 06:42:00 PM »
Nothing stiffer than 500...depending on the weight of the point you want to shoot. Tim from Braveheart is probably right on.
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 08:43:00 PM »
Sorry man, but a bow like that deserves a good set of wood arrows.    :D    :archer:
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2010, 12:25:00 AM »
I found a really good deal on some MAX4 bemans that have a 500 spine. How heavy of a tip so you guess I will need?
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2010, 10:48:00 PM »
Anybody. Are the 500 bemans too heavy?
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 12:32:00 AM »
The 500 has nothing to do with the weight of the shaft, it has to do with the stiffness of the shaft. You will probably need a lot of weight up front.
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Offline mathews4ever

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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2010, 05:31:00 AM »
I am fully aware that the 500 has nothing to do with weight. When I asked if it was going to be to heavy I meant did you think that the arrow was going to be spined to heavy shooting a 500 shaft.
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2010, 04:01:00 AM »
I ran the numbers on the pinwheel program and it claims that a .600 axis/MFX shaft with 170+insert upfront is the ticket. Does this sound right? I really can't afford to buy many dozens of arrows too trial and error so I am hoping to get the right shaft first and then fine tune with tip weight and shaft length. I would really like to keep the tip weight at or above 150gr.
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Re: Arrow selection Help
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2010, 06:23:00 AM »
I shoot 48# at my 26.75" draw length and I shoot Beman MFX Classic 500 arrows out of my Pittsley Predator. My specs are in my signature below. I get superb arrow flight.
58" JK Traditions Kanati Longbow
Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
19.9% FOC
49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
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