Thanks from me Owlbait but don't open any e-mail attachments sent from my wife for a couple of years without first dowsing your PC in a tub of water! I have never even seen a Schafer before. Of course I know the story about Paul, I remember reading the tribute to him in, I believe, Bowhunter Magazine many years ago. Very sad for his family. There is one bow on this ad that would work for me. I e-mailed the folks at Schafer around 11pm last night. I have a Snake BIt (Blacktail) and a Super Wildcat (Rose Oak) on order at this time -- the last thing I probably need to do is order another high dollar TD. However, I'm very intrigued by the passion silvertip owners have for this equipment. YIKES!