2016 question

[reddogge]

I picked up 6 autumn orange 2016 arrows 29" BOP and 6 2016 Lite 28" BOP at Denton last month at a very good price.

The 2016s fly fantastic out of 50# bows and the 2016 Lites also shoot well but the bows are a little noisier with some limb slap.

Both have 125 gr. fieldpoints and the 2016s weigh 480 gr. and the 2016s weigh 463 gr.  I'm thinking of putting 145 gr fieldpoints on the 2016 Lites to make them weigh 483 gr and reduce the slap. Does this seem to be a good idea?  I'm asking as I have to order the points.

[barredfeather]

I shoot 2016's out of a 47# recurve at 28" with 145 grain points and they fly great and no noise.

Hope that helps.

Jerry

[Buckeye Trad Hunter]

How far do you actually draw your bow?

[K. Mogensen]

145 has worked for me.

[reddogge]

Just about 28".

[Steve Clandinin]

One of my bows is 50# and I draw it 27-3/4" I'm using 200gr. for a total weight of 540gr.and they fly great.

[cacciatore]

reddogge are the lite XX78 or XX75,cause the Superslam were anyway stiffer.

[4406v]

I've shot 2016's cut 29" with 125 gr points for years out of everything 40-52 lbs without any problems.It's the one thing I've never had to change.

I think the shaft weight does make some defference--if you can bump up the lites with a slightly heavier point it should take care of it.

[David Mitchell]

I may be wrong, but I think a 2016 is a 2016 whether it says "Lite" or not.  I believe that was a marketing thing when guys started this light arrow for more speed thing.  The same grade of aluminum will weigh the same if it is 20/64 diameter and .16 wall thickness--which is what 2016 means (not trying to insult anyone's intelligence, just explaining).  Have you actually weighed them?

[Charlie Lamb]

You beat me to it David!! A 2016 is a 2016 unless the word "Lite" somehow makes them weigh less. LOL  

[reddogge]

I weighed them per the first post.  They are lighter by 17 gr. but are 1" shorter.  If 1" of tubing weighs 17 gr. that may be it.

My question was based on the fact that maybe all alloys don't weigh the same and these arrows may not be the same alloy so Alloy A @ 20/64 X.16 may weigh less than Alloy B 20/64x.16.  Just checking to see if anyone knew for sure.

[RC]

I`ve shot 2016`s a lot out of Hill bows. 52lbs at 27 with 225 grain point. On longbows that are cut a touch deeper I used 175 grain points. Regardless a 2016 is a 2016 and should weigh the same.Years ago I was seeing a HUGE boar in our swamp. He was 350 plus and thats big for a swamp hof. I filled a 2016 up with weedeater line and 175 grain point out of my quillen patriot at 55 lbs it hit like a volkswagon. Never got a shot at the boar though.RC

[olddogrib]

The difference in weight is due to the length. If both these arrows were 29" they would weigh the same. I would not expect them to exhibit an equal amount of paradox, but only you can determine which is better. The 2016 is a good choice for the poundage range you mention but a whole inch of length is alot. If the 29" exhibits the best tune, I would expect the 28" to be stiff.  You are correct in that you would have to add point weight to counteract the stiff spine.  145-175gr. or more might do it. If the 28" shaft with 125 gr. heads is ideally spined, I would expect you would have to reduce point weight on the 29" shaft to duplicate it, maybe 75-100 gr.

[V I Archer]

I switched from 2016's to wood shafts a few seasons back.  Have roughly 100 145gr screw in points, let me know if you to try a few and I'll drop em in the mail for ya.

[bolong]

I shoot 2016 out of my 48# longbows. Arrows are 30 1/2" and I draw 29 3/4 with 145 gr. points. They fly like a dart and quiet too.

[BOWMARKS]

I shoot 2016-29" with 175 grain heads from a 45# recurve shoot great for me.  
A 2016 is 10.6 gpi.

[Andy Cooper]

Aluminum shaft virgin question: do the aluminum shafts need inserts at both ends, or just for the point? Guess I've lived a sheltered life...all my arrows have been wood, with the exception half a dozen carbons when I strayed to the dark side for a few months.      

Not off-topic because 2016's are what I'm considering shooting from my 50# recurves. Anyone having a monster sale on the Legacy's from Eastman?   :D

[BOWMARKS]

Most aluminumn arrows just need the insert at point end. There are some that also need a uni. bushing insert at nock end for adjustable nocks.