High spined woodies?????

[Dave Bulla]

Hey all, long time no see.

Been busy with work, family and some other hobbies so my TG time really took a hit for about a year now.

Gotta question for ya'll.

Where's a good place to pick up some real high spined woodies?  Prefer cedar of course but open to doug fir or other possibilities.

I need about 100-105# spine.  105-110 might be even better.  They're gonna get footed out to about 32" or 33" BOP.

I recently got an email from a supplier about long shafts but he doesn't have them in my spine.  I did a little checking around and was surprised at the jump in prices since last time I ordered.  I used to shop Rogue River and last time I got shafts I think they were either $29 or $32 per dozen.  Now at a couple different vendors I'm seeing $40 to $50 a dozen!  That's just shafts, not arrows.

I guess that's just another sign of the devalued dollar....

However, being a proud graduate of the VanTX school of thrift and frugality I thought I'd ask around a bit before I place an order as things always seem to be a changin' and like I said, I've not been staying up with the site for a while.  (some of you all will wonder who the heck VanTX is but the old farts will know)

I'll pay premium for quality but I don't want junk at any price.

[RPolk]

Dave,

Not one of your choices listed above, but I was able to get some purple heart shafts spined 110-115 from Allegheney Mountain Arrow Woods. Had great customer service.

[Orion]

I think Surewood can supply doug fir shafts that heavy.  Might have to go to 23/64 diameter.

[bigjohnmissalot]

http://www.hildebrandarrowshafts.com/   Dave i have tried them, great shafts

[bigjohnmissalot]

http://surewoodshafts.com/  Sorry Dave wrong shafts for your weight and yes these are great also

[Dave Bulla]

Hey wow!  Thanks!

Surewood has them up to 125# spine!  I could even play around with heavy broadheads with something like that.  Prices look reasonable too!

[Mike Most]

Allegheney Mountain Arrow Woods

I will have to second the above, just ordered two days ago and had some new ash shafts sitting by the fence this noon.  He had some heavy hickory shafting that may interest you.814-274-2282

Regards

Mike

[Dave Bulla]

Mike,

I've tried some of the hardwoods in years past.  Silent Pond (no idea if they are still in business or not.) had some great tapered maple shafts but my finished arrow weight averaged over 800 grains.  They hit like a ton of bricks but the trajectory was a bit steep after about 20 yards.  My buddy used the ash shafts and liked them when he could keep them straight.  In the end, I ended up back with cedars and figured out why they are so popular.  They just fly good and end up nicely weighted with no special effort.  I think I'll probably be trying the Surewood shaft sitka's simply because they are the only ones advertising the spine I want.  I hope they are better than chundoo.  That was one material I didn't like at all.

[Shawn Leonard]

Dave, when ya get them check the spine for yourself. I was told by a guy who sold tens of thousands of woodies that spines over a 100#s were almost impossible to find. Ya may sort thru 20,000 shafts to get a dozen and non in 11/32nds. Maybe in other woods but cedar and doug fir or lodgepole pine ya can about forget it! I once had Rose City send me what I was told were 95-100s but were actually around 85# spine. In cedar that is about as good as it gets! Shawn

[Joshua Lee]

I just got a dozen(Dour Fir) from surewood at 75# and they are sweet.

[snag]

You won't be disappointed with Surewoods! They have a great combo of weight, straightness, and durability.                

[Dave Bulla]

Shawn,

I've wondered about the actual spine weights of woodies for years.  I don't have a spine tester but my friend had one that I used to use.  Never had an issue with Rogue River shafts not making spine.

As for the rarity of high spines in cedar, I believe you are probably correct.  I'm hoping that Sitka spruce is stronger.  Being an old aviation mechanic, I know that Sitka Spruce is supposed to be one of the strongest/lightest woods in nature so maybe higher spines are easier to get in that wood.

[snag]

If Surewood sends you a marked spine weight range you can bet they will fall into that range. I have bought hundreds of their shafts. I always weight and spine test them to put them in groups. Never a problem.

[Dave Bulla]

That's great to know snag, thanks.