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Author Topic: what glue with brass inserts  (Read 835 times)

Offline artifaker1

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2010, 02:48:00 PM »
I use hot glue applied with a glue gun. And I put the points on top of a quartz lamp first to get them real hot. You have to hold them longer till the glue sets up but they never come out (till you heat them a few seconds with a zippo).
But for hunting I think the arrow would be stronger with HEAT SET epoxy. After I tried heat setting 24 hour epoxy I wouldn't think of using epoxy without some heat to set it. Yes even on carbon arrows, just hot enough that you can't hold your finger on the arrow will do. 24 hour epoxy will be rock hard in about ten minutes and bomb proof.
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Offline Craig

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2010, 03:07:00 PM »
I have a friend that makes glueless inserts, they never come out unless you want them to. He has a patent on them. Only problem is trying to make them cheap enough to sell.
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Offline Jmatt1957

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2010, 05:27:00 PM »
Wow.. Thanks for all the responses.

Offline joe skipp

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2010, 05:31:00 PM »
I use JB Weld...6 hr cure on my brass inserts for my AD Trad Lites. Never had them move or come out.
Also used brass inserts on some Bear Metric Magnums that I wanted to weaken up, JB Weld all the way.
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Offline Textrout

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2010, 07:01:00 PM »
IS there a brand name of that glue?
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Offline Big Ed

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2010, 07:11:00 PM »
Hot melt is the way to go. Just be careful with direct heat on the carbon.
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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2010, 10:32:00 PM »
I have glued many inserts (1000's ++++)in with the quick stick hot glue sold by many companies including us. If there has been an insert pull out of any of those shafts, I have not heard about it. I did however have call backs on inserts that were installed with the cyacrilic style glue. Most of these have been into gold tips. That includes brass and aluminum inserts.

I use the quick stick on all of our shafts including my personal arrows being shot from bows ranging from 80#'s to 90#'s and never ever having one pull out!
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Offline HB3

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2010, 10:43:00 PM »
I prepare my carbon shafts by polishing with a brass bore brush mounted on a drill that I got at Sinclair reloading products and then clean with alcohol. Then JB weld, never had a head come out. Just did a dozen with Bohning insert Iron glue that is heat reverseable, we will see.

Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2010, 09:53:00 AM »
I've had good results in the past with both epoxy and super glue gels, but have been using AMG's new hot melt for carbons for about a year.  Works great and is easily reversible if needed.  They call it Super 735.

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Offline T Folts

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2010, 06:30:00 PM »
What about the amber hot melt for wood arrows and glue-on heads?
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Offline onewhohasfun

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2010, 06:38:00 PM »
I think it's too brittle.
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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2010, 06:51:00 PM »
Hot melt is all I have ever used or need to use.  I don't have problems with them coming out unless I want them out.  On Beman shafts I just glue them in.  On GT's I have to take a rat tail file or similar items and scuff up the inside real well.  Those GT shaft have a really slick surface in them.  I have wiped them down with different stuff to clean them, but in the end really needed to abrade the inside.
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Offline WPAtrapper

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2010, 08:50:00 PM »
Wally World hot glue. Never had one come out.
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Offline mparks

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2010, 09:02:00 PM »
JB Weld.  Use the drill bit and swing trick to knock them out.  The epoxy and hot melts I used in the past cost me a few inserts.  Usually in the cold.

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2010, 09:05:00 PM »
I've used hot melt glue ever since I started shooting carbon arrows more than 12 years ago and haven't lost one yet. I do take the tome to properly prep both the insert and inside of the shaft.
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Offline Zmonster

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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2010, 09:29:00 PM »
I just picked up some club makers epoxy from a local golf shop. I've heard good things about it and makes sence as it's used for repeated violent impacts. I've always used JB weld and never had an issue except one, and I think it was prep work. Didn't do any on that half dozen. The next batches all had the insides scored and wiped with alcohol along with the inserts and none pulled. I'm very hard on arrows. When people ask about my footing, I usually show them the effects by shooting a arrow into a rock or other hard stationary object  to prove they don't break. Still going strong.
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Re: what glue with brass inserts
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2010, 01:44:00 AM »
I use the Kimsha quick stick hot melt (Thanks to Big Jim)...I primarily shoot GT's and have yet to have an insert come out after using the quick stick hot melt. I have used Bohning Ferrl Tite, and other glues and have had point/inserts come out of my carbons. I'll have to agree with Big Jim in that I have not had an insert/point failure since unsing the hot melt. Good luck.
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