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Author Topic: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)  (Read 588 times)

Offline mrpenguin

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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #20 on: September 05, 2010, 08:24:00 AM »
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The first Vid taught me to make strings, and I have been quite happy with the results.
  A bit on making padded loops in the next one might be helpfull to some folks.
  A lot of frustration comes from not getting the right amount of back twists, more help here might be good.
 Another place of help to the new string builder could be a bit on serving sizes for diferent strand counts , and  arrow nock types, carbon/ wood .
 And giudelines on making loop sizes.

  Do you think you can suffer more from the heat when you do the next one?
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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #21 on: September 05, 2010, 08:58:00 AM »
If there are any special tricks or techniques to consider when building skinny strings which has been a hot topic the last year or two.
Maybe a general guide of what the minimum strand count is for different weight bows and different materials.
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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #22 on: September 05, 2010, 01:35:00 PM »
I don't particularly care for really skinny strings, but I'm sure we'll cover those as well.  A few things to consider are:  they stretch/creep considerably more, especially on a heavier draw weight;  they are much less adjustable (the twists won't shorten or lengthen it nearly as much), and in the case of sharp objects (like putting a broadhead tipped arrow back in a bow quiver at dusk) they are less durable.  We plan to discuss performance differences and such also.

As always, the input is very much appreciated!

Chad

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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2010, 11:11:00 AM »
We're getting closer.  Filming is set for spring (sometime after hunting season).  Lots of the loose ends have been sewn up.  It's a definate "go".  

If there's something you'd like to see covered, now is the time to chime in.  We're working on the "script" right now.

Chad

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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2010, 12:00:00 PM »
Loved and learned a great deal from the first.

Short section on how to tie adjustable nocks on the serving.

Looking forward to next DVD.
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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2010, 12:14:00 PM »
Chad your first DVD was awesome I learned alot from it, I am like alot of guys and gals I would like to see more on loop size and back twists. Blake
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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2010, 12:26:00 PM »
Teach people to make string loops for normal, as they should be built, thin tipped bows.......no loops so big that they fall off the tip or you can use the string to lasso a steer.....

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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2010, 01:15:00 PM »
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Teach people to make string loops for normal,...  
Ain't nothing normal about you Steve!

Thanks again for everyone's input--I believe this one is going to be considerably better than the first.  We learned a lot when filming that one, and I've learned a bit more about strings in the six years since filming it.  Plus, as promised earlier, there's going to be some suprise bonuses to this one that will add a lot to the content.

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Re: Strings--Need Opinions (lots of them)
« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2010, 12:13:00 AM »
Chad,

I learned the basic technique from your first DVD and I've had fun making some strings.  Unfortunately for everyone that I have made that works I've had several that don't. So my problem is the lack of repeatable string making. I've written the directions down step by step and have really tried to get my twisting technique down to where it is repeatable i.e. the same tension and degree of twisting and numbers of backtwist.  

The bad strings I have made tend to have a common problem.  One end looks perfect and the other looks like two ropes twisted together that could unravel at any moment and sometimes does.
From what I've read on this site, this is due to the fact that the back twist in the body of the string is not correct.  The problem is that I've heard its either too much back twist or not enough. This is a common problem so I would definately ask your video to show how to fix this problem.

What I would like to know is how to determine the "formula" for the number of back twists for the different number of strand strings. How did you guys come up witht the number 33 or whatever it is in the video?

In my case I have a two bundle string with 6 strands in each bundle how many back twist is that going to need. My loops are about 17 twist to create.  After the loops, I twist each bundle 5 times, then start dropping stands, then twist each bundle, then drops 2 stands until I'm out of strands to drop.  Then each bundle gets 5 more twist each.  By my counting that is 24 twist after the loops have been made or 41 twist if you count the loops.    

Hope that makes sense.  

I would echo the comments about showing the most common mistakes made in string making, what they look like at the end product, and how to avoid that same mistake.

Thanks again for taking the time to work on a product like this. I will definitely be purchasing this video.

Chris
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