Originally posted by GrayRhino: I've never had the opportunity to handle or shoot a Chek Mate , but they are great looking bows, and the price sure is hard to beat. The reviews here definitely speak well of them.Ron W, about the grip.....That might be an important consideration since I am looking for a bow for my 13 year old son to use and grow into.He can comfortably hold my Widow PMA with its standard grip. Can anyone out there compare the grip on a Hunter II with the standard grip on a Widow?