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Dustin Waters
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bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 07:39:00 AM »
The same limbs on a new riser is causing a nock right situation when trying to tune with the same arrows it used to love. Up and down is good but the nock is right. Is that spine too stiff or spine too weak? I cant remember.
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thunder1
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 08:02:00 AM »
Weak spine. Is the riser the same as the old on?
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 08:21:00 AM »
If your right handed ,too stiff
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 08:26:00 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by Prairie Drifter:
If your right handed ,too stiff
yep
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Pete McMiller
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 08:40:00 AM »
It's my understanding that it makes no difference where your nock ends up. It's where the arrow impacts the target and it's relationship to your fletched shafts. I followed this advice when bare shafting this summer and got good results doing it.
If you think about it, it makes sense because there is nothing on the back end of your bare shaft to steer it so the nock end could be anywhere. Also what effect does they type of target have on where the nock ends up?
If your point is right of your fletched shafts it would indicate a weak spine if you are shooting right handed.
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Dustin Waters
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 10:44:00 AM »
which is it, stiff or weak?
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JRY309
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 11:06:00 AM »
Like said if your nock is right and you are RH,they are on the stiff side.Try adding some weight to the front end.
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Pete McMiller
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 11:07:00 AM »
Dustin,
Read this:
http://bowmaker.net/index2.htm
There is a whole section on bare shaft tuning.
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 11:13:00 AM »
deleted by self...i think I diosagree with myself...this is confusing
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Beezer
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 11:22:00 AM »
Well, I guess this proves that everyone has differing opinions on tuning! I'm reading a 20 page "tutorial" right now on tuning longbows and recurves and it makes sense. Try
www.bowmaker.net/tuning.htm.
About 20 pages worth of tuning stuff and try it yourself.
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Dusty Nethery
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 11:23:00 AM »
As others have said, your shafts are SHOWING too stiff. However, it could be a false reading if they are too weak. Maybe the new riser is center-cut differently.
My remedy would be to throw some more weight up-front (I'd start with 25 grains) and see if you can pull the nock back towards center. If the increase in weight causes even worse flight, then decrease point weight by 25 grains and try again.
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Dustin Waters
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 12:34:00 PM »
screw it, the bareshaft hits in the same group as the fletched arrows and I have killed many a deer with this set up so Im going with it. Im sure its close enough to count right?
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Dusty Nethery
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September 22, 2010, 02:29:00 PM »
It may be close enough.
However, I've found the bareshaft planing method to be useless at less than 20 yards. I can get any arrow to group with fletched shafts at 20 yards or less. Maybe you should move back and then check your arrow flight?
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Re: bareshaft nock right
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September 22, 2010, 02:44:00 PM »
Try shooting your broadheads on your current arrows.
They will magnify any shaft tuning errors.
Good luck my friend!
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