Weirdest day of hunting in 25 years!!!!!!!!!

[Tom Leemans]

Yep get permission first, but have the DNR number stored in your cell. I'd like to see IL go the way Iowa did, but it's still the best idea to ask first.

[deaddoc4444]

The first deer I ever arrowed , this happened to me . IN PENNA>      Lost the trail when it got dark   was lookng for it with friends and flash lights and lanterns  but still lost the trail in the dark.  Next morning picked up the trail and followed right to the gut pile ,  next to the dump that the next property owners had.  We are sure they saw  the lights and knew what was going on  waited till we left and then went up and found it and took it .    Was a  medium 4 point  but it was painful back then      sitll is !!!!!!

[stevewills]

well i dont want too sound like a jerk,but ill not let someone come on my property for any reason.reason being im having bad problem with tresspassers.i have been watching a big 140 inch 8 this year and new where they are coming from and going too well moved in on him and never saw him sat..well thats because a guy jumped the fence and shot him sat.before the 5 bucks came my way...i cant stand a tresspasser for whatever reason

[bolong]

If that happens here, you call a wildlife officer to come to the scene. He gives the property owner two choices, either let the hunter recover the animal or they will issue the property owner a citation for wasting game. In the few cases where this has occured, the hunter has always prevailed.

[D Harris]

In Rhode Island a Conservation Officer or Police Officer can assist in retreiving your deer regardless of property lines.

[hunt it]

And the soloution is use a smaller flashlight with a red or green lense. Or wait until 1am and go for it. As long as there is fences this will always be an issue. First preference is to know landowners but in cases where person is avid anti hunting - what they don't know never hurts them.

[Prairie Drifter]

Originally posted by jrstegner:
[QB] Conservation officers can go where they want, when they want, without a search warrant. Their jurisdiction even extends beyond state lines.


That is NOT true. The 4th amendment prevents that very thing. Had a case in Penn. is the late 90's that went to the Supreme Court that supported that.Wardens  searched a Taxidermist there w/o a warrent. Said because he was licensed by the state it gave them the right. Courts said nope, still need a warrent.

[Greg Szalewski]

Even IF you or the CO can legally go after a wounded deer the land owner should be contacted FIRST. I can't say as I am too surpised at the land owners reaction. Getting on his good side is going to be harder now.

[-Achilles-]

If you showed up on my land looking for a deer I would help you find it.Some people are just a$$holes.

PrairieD-"Conservation officers can go where they want, when they want, without a search warrant. Their jurisdiction even extends beyond state lines."

As far as I know this is true.They have more authority then a regular law officer.Yes you can protest it and take it to the supreme court but who has that kind of money?

[Pointer]

I read stuff like this and it just makes me happier that I hunt state land. No nonsense like this to deal with. I know the deer are more spread out and you have to look harder for them but I'd rather have that than have to deal with this crap...angry landowners, people who steal treestands..I hunt to enjoy myself...how can anyone enjoy themselves in situations like the ones described here?

[homerdave]

up here we have a right of retrieval, and we DON'T have to be unarmed.

[reddogge]

In Maryland you are required to have in your possession written permission to tresspass or hunt on private property.  You first mistake was to tresspass without written permission and your second was not going immediately to the neighbor and explain your situation before tresspassing.  He may have let you recover the deer.  We don't have any laws on the books that allow you to recover wounded game on someone elses property to my knowledge in this state like it or not.

I would move to the far end of the property or don't shoot deer moving toward his property as the chances he will grant you permission now are very slim especially if he finds the decapitated buck carcass.

[Mojostick]

CO's are basically bound to the same laws as police.

That said, one cannot claim the deer without a tag.

You might want to contact the CO and ask him to verify if in fact your neighbor had bought a tag prior to the incident, and even if so, if he in fact ever tagged your deer. What comes around goes around in the world of karma.

It's not like you're going to hurt your relationship with the guy, because he's already against you. But you may teach him a quiet lesson in karma.

[reddogge]

An addition to tag info.  In MD you don't need a licence to hunt on your own property but you must tag it with a homemade tag.  Then you call the kill in and replace the field tag with a possession tag with the confirmation number you get over the phone on it.

The property owner must have a confirmation number.  You may be able to get him on that.  Be carefull because if he finds and reports the first buck you could take a fall for the untagged buck skull.  Could be a can of worms.

[xtrema312]

I tell you I am a very nice and gentle spirit until it comes to trespassers.  We have had our fill over the years on the farm of finding gut piles and running off trespassers that claim to be looking for a wounded deer, but can't produce one drop of blood anywhere, and sometimes they don't seem to even be on a track in the snow.  We also have a load of neighbors who think it is perfectly fine to hunt right on the property line with their stand in a fence line tree and them setting so their shooting side is facing us; they have to stand up and turn around 180 to shoot on the property they are supposed to be hunting.   Then there is the neighbor with the shooting shack setting three feet from the fence who sets facing the fence with his back to his 5 acres with no window on that side.  Or the guys bow hunting in another neighbors back yard of their one acres lot with their pop up blind setting on the fence line right in a gap in our pine trees we planted to screen off all the neighbors.  How likely is it that they could shoot a deer and not have it leave the property if it was ever on it in the fist place?  So when one of them comes looking for a deer even if they ask I tell them to head home unless they can show me blood starting on their side of the fence at least.   I get soooo tired of seeing the orange army march up and down the fence line.  I have had three very close calls with shotgun slugs so I have had it with all that.  I don't even feel safe hunting within 100 yd. of the property line.

Don't get me started on the construction works that used our pines as a toilet for a good part of a year while building a house for another new neighbor, but that is another trespasser type along with the dogs, kids, and ladies on horses who think riding on the property in the middle of gun deer season would be as good idea.

So what I am saying is ask first because some of us have had all we can stand from the neighbors and don't care to have you just do as you please. It could be your first hunt on an adjacent property, but you have no idea what the neighbor has put up with in the past.  Even with all my experience and more new neighbors on the way, I would let anyone who asks come get a deer if they show blood on their property leading into mine.  If you feel you can't ask then make sure your deer doesn't leave your property.  I would recommend anytime you start to hunt a new place that you meet all the neighbors before you hunt, tell them you will be hunting in the area, and ask if you can get their phone number to ask to get a deer if one should cross the line.  I think that would go a long way.

[joevan125]

Man sorry to here about the second deer but i'm glad you found the first one.

20 yrs ago i was hunting with a family who own some of the best hunting land in the state.

They had a walk in cooler that would hold around 20 deer.

To make a long story short me and my friends brother shot 2 bucks one afternoon and mine was a huge rack 7 pointer that weighed 226 lbs.

The next morning we returned to hunt and both our bucks were gone. All i have left to show are a couple of pictures.

I was so sick i could hardly hunt that day, the buck i shot was just a monster and for someone to come into the cooler and take it really sucked.

[Mojostick]

Xtrema/Tood, you're preaching to the choir with me. Perhaps it's a Michigan thing with 300,000 "bowhunters" and 650,000 gun hunters, and the huge numbers of stolen trail cam and stolen treestand stories, it makes you wonder if we're the 10% minority out here.

I have no issue with a guy tracking "blood". And I have an agreement with my neighborbors about looking for wounded deer, but sometimes the overall BS makes it tough to be understanding to the legit guy tracking a legit bloodtrail.