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Insert Iron
« on: October 19, 2010, 08:29:00 PM »
This is branching from another post of mine, but has anyone tried this stuff? Good, Bad?

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2010, 09:00:00 PM »
One word,awesome!
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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2010, 09:07:00 PM »
I have not had very good results with it.  I clean the inside of my arrows and have never had an issue with cyanoacrylate glue.  But, I decided to try insert iron.  I've had 9 out of 12 arrows lose the inserts.  I won't be using it again

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2010, 09:12:00 PM »
Works great for me, but I have not tried to remove any inserts that were installed with Insert Iron.

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2010, 09:47:00 PM »
Have been using, no complaints but have not tried to loosen with heat yet.

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2010, 07:43:00 AM »
How much do you have to use on the insert to get it to hold properly?

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2010, 08:49:00 AM »
I have lost a couple inserts using it with carbon arrows.  I cleaned both he arrow and insert with alcohol and followed the directions on the bottle. I stopped using it.
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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2010, 09:39:00 AM »
Well I bought a bottle of it. Hopefully it works out alright. I'll use a lot, to make sure it holds well. If it doesnt, ill just get out the gorilla glue.

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2010, 12:03:00 PM »
Works great, thick too which I like and the inserts can be removed with heat (saving money). I does thicken in the bottle once you open it, I have one about three months old and it's got maybe another two and she'll be to hard to use (I guess)

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 04:29:00 AM »
Thought I would post my results here. I just started using it and works great. I did loose one insert from and arrow that missed the mark and stuck into a plywood sheet. I was using the arrow within 24 hours of glue up, not the recommended 72hrs.
I am in the tuning process and wanted to try and remove the inserts. I put the arrow into boiling water and after about 5 minutes was able to remove all the inserts.

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 07:35:00 AM »
for all inserts, after cleaning both the insert and shaft tube end, i use quality slow set epoxy.  they never ever come out.
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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 11:44:00 AM »
It worked for a while on my carbon arrows but the inserts are coming loose now.

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 12:03:00 PM »
I have been using it a while and so far so good.
I am impatient so I dont like the dry time but I can live with it if it works.
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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 12:10:00 PM »
I`ve had good luck with it.I take a rifle bore cleaning brush and scuff the inside of the carbon shaft.Then clean with alcohol or lacwuer thinner.I`ve done 4 dozen arrows and none have came loose yet.I heated one shaft last night to line up  my broadheads and it worked just fine.
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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 12:24:00 PM »
I like Insert Iron.  It's as durable a product as I can find that will allow me to remove the insert if I want to without damaging the shaft.

On rare occasions, the inserts do come loose.  So occasionally, I will clamp my points in a vice and give a strong twist to the shaft.  If the insert is loose, it will twist and I can just pull it out and reglue it right then.  This also has the advantage of tightening all my points so they don't start unscrewing themselves when I'm shooting them.  I don't like having to tighten a point before I take a shot.  Since I've started doing this, I haven't lost any inserts in targets.
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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2011, 02:01:00 PM »
I thought I would like it as it is much more convenient to use than hot melt, and epoxy is permanent. Well, I won't be buying it again-- a number of inserts have come out, and the stuff dried up in the bottle despite being careful with it so it was a waste of money, I think.

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2011, 03:04:00 PM »
I like it, works well and heat reversable. Only issue is the plastic bottle must leak air and it will set up in the bottle over time (as all, I guess), still usuable but won't squirt out and have to dip it now (that bottle is like 6 months old) Favorite glue for inserts for me on carbon shafts. You can find it for under 10 bucks if you look.

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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2011, 03:36:00 PM »
I like it, and I have never had a point work loose with it. The bubble of air in the bottle when it is new is, I understand, not air, but rather it is inert gas. If you let regular air into the bottle the glue gets worthless. I make sure to open and close the bottle upside down once the bubble has worked its way to the bottom of the bottle. Doing this, I prevent air from replacing the gas bubble.

I have reversed the bond with heat and that works as advertised.
It is good stuff, but a bit touchy to use because of its reaction to air.
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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2011, 12:22:00 PM »
I was wondering why some people experience the glue drying out in the bottle, while I have never had that happen.  I think the reason is accidental: I store the glue bottle upside down, so I don't have to wait so long for the glue to get to the spout.  I think that in storing it upside down, it also probably accomplishes the purpose of keeping the glue near the spout away from air, so it doesn't dry out.  I find that in storing it upside down, glue hardens around the threads after a while so I can't screw the cap on, but a nail pushed into the hole works just as well, maybe even better, as it keeps the hole open for the glue to move through.
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Re: Insert Iron
« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2011, 01:17:00 PM »
Ive had a lot of inserts pull out stumping lately and just ordered this stuff to give a try.  Glad I read about storing up sidedown thanks Smoking Joe adn McDave.
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