Im pinned down!!!

[ron w]

Sunset in New York is just what it says.....sunset. Not a 1/2 hour after. Semo Hunter, every state is different but here they print the the solar tables for sun rise and sun set and put it in the handbook of rules and regs., and that is the legal time, anywhere in between the two. Casey your seeing deer so it's just a matter of time. Be stealthy and it will happen. Like I said at least your seeing some deer!!

[SEMO_HUNTER]

What I was asking was what is considered sunset? Is it when it disappears behind the trees when your on a hill, or when you are in a creek bottom?
If they print the time tables and tell you when to stop hunting that's a no brainer, but if they leave it up to the person viewing the sun then that would depend on where you are sitting. I know that it stays daylight longer when I'm hunting the edge of an open field than it does when I'm in the woods.
Of course Mo. is a hunter friendly state and they try to give us every oppurtunity to take our animal.
Just glancing at the time table here in Missouri as printed in the 2010 Fall Turkey and Deer hunting handbook, November 3rd for instance shows sunset at 6:07pm and 1/2 hr after that would be 6:37pm and I already know that I can't hardly see my hand in front of my face at 6:30pm so that is ample time to get er done.
Sunrise is also listed as 7:38am then 1/2 hr before that would be 7:08am, and I purposely glanced at my watch this morning when I thought it was just about enough light to ethically shoot a deer and it was 7:05am.....seems about right to me.
I'm not trying to start an arguement or anything, just explaining what I was getting at with my response to your post.
I know every state is different, this is just how my state does it.

[ron w]

No argument intended, In N.Y. the time is it no matter if your in a field or a creek bottom. Best of luck ....ron w

[KellyG]

I have hunted from blinds I have made myself in out of available cover. I have be busted and I have let a deer walk. On blind I set up was the first time I was stationed in KS I was hunting on the FT riley and had no tree stands and you cannot build them in the tree on the fort just like many public hunting areas. Any way I used old corn stalks sunflowers and weed and made myself a ground blind on the back of a big ol corn field 30yrds form the tree line to the south. It was also placed about 30yrs from a overgrown field to the east. The first time I sat in it I had a spike walk with in 10yrds problem was my son was asleep in my lap. the next time I have 3 does at 25yrds and two them trying to figure out what I am walk right up and are looking over the edge. I have almost laid down. they run off but I stop them with grunt. the walk in the woods and 15 min later I catch them moving 20yrs to my west. trying to get around and wind me. the lead stops I am anchored and release. my arrow is flying to the spot where I am aiming and I think this is my first bow kill then a corn stalk jumps up out of nowhere and she runs free. My point is that if you spend the time on making a ground blind or even purchasing one and camoing it you will get your chance at them, and don't over look them as an option trees are great but if they are seeing you up there than the ground might be the option. If they are looking up and you are down end of story good luck.