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Author Topic: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question  (Read 307 times)

Offline saumensch

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Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« on: November 09, 2010, 05:01:00 PM »
I am sorry for another spine question.
When ill do my 100th Spine question ill give away a bow on here, i promise     :readit:  !

Heres the problem:

I made a bareshaft testafter fixing my form issues lately and because i noticed strange arrow flight lately.

 My current arrows showed a bit weak so is started cutting them down 1/4 inch at a time till they showed perfect flight (literally like darts) and grouped with the fletched ones.

Then i refletched one of the bareshafts and put a blade BH on it and this showed a bit stiff.

In the end i had the perfect arrow for field points and broadheads but according to what other people here shoot on similar bows and also according to Stu Millers calc they seem very stiff.

Before ill cut down all arrows i would like to know youre opinion.

Here are all data of the setup with the best results:

Bow: 56# @29,5, fast flight 16strand, 1/16 out of center, 4 wool silencers

Arrow:
CX Her. 350, 30,5"; 125grain point; 14grain insert + 100grain internal footing 1"long, 1,5" external footing 18 grain;


Thanks so much to all who endure and answer my seemingly neverending spineissues!!!!!
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Offline metsastaja

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Re: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2010, 06:35:00 PM »
Very strange .  From personnel experience with CE Heritage arrows I would say you are over spined.

I don't even think of the 350 till Im over 60#. I use 250's for high 40's through upper 50#s
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Offline stevewills

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Re: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2010, 06:40:00 PM »
im shooting a bw pma2 62 in.56@28 and shoot the 350s.but my fron ens has a200 grain bh and a 25 grain adapter
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Re: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2010, 06:42:00 PM »
The 350's are equivalent to 94# spine weight. With your setup it would seem they would be too stiff even at 30.5"bop and over 225gr tip weight. You also don't have a bow that is cut to center meaning you would need a more flexible shaft.
 I shoot 250's (84# spine) out of a similar setup but with 29.25"bop and 225-230gr tip weight and get great arrow flight.
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Offline saumensch

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Re: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2010, 06:44:00 PM »
how long are youre draws?
Thanks
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Re: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2010, 06:47:00 PM »
Snag- his bow is cut 1/16 PAST center.  Does still seem stiff, but if it works, shoot it!

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Re: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2010, 06:51:00 PM »
SORRY!!
This was a writing/thinking mistake! It is 1/16 out of center. I dont know the correct term, so to describe it, the wood reaches out 1/16 past the center/the riser is wider than center.
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Offline House

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Re: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2010, 06:55:00 PM »
Oops- Sorry Snag, I guess you were right...you musta read his mind  :saywhat:  

I believe they usually say "shy" or "from" center in this case.

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Offline sbschindler

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Re: Can this be correct? CX Her. Spine question
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2010, 09:06:00 PM »
I shoot a CE 150 with a 100 grain insert and a  175 grain tip, the arrow is 30 inches long and i draw 29 inches, my bow is a 60 lb recurve and the arrows fly very well. My 250's were way to stiff for my set up.

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