Not to nulify fellow Tradganger help but...

[mnbearbaiter]

I had a post about my 2011 setup, and it involves using Snuffers vs WW as well! I took your advice to heart, but upon looking through my stash of broadheads(im a broadhead junkie), i have over a dozen of the 165gr Ace Super Express broadheads!!! I think i will go that route boys and girls! Anyone with any tricks on sharpening them, i use a file and get a good ridgid edge that just grabs and tears at tissue and arteries/veins and leaves good bloodtrails, anyone with additional advice, or is that edge adequate?

[**DONOTDELETE**]

KME

[DannyBows]

Ace broadheads are as tough as they come. I think there is a sharpening tutorial in the How-To forum by Charlie Lamb. He shows how to sharpen with a file, then when done he draws the file down the edge with the corner of the file. I tried it and it makes for an awesome edge. It was either in the How-To, or the TradGang video, can't remember which. Anyway, the Ace should be perfect to file sharpen. Good Luck with them!

[2treks]

I use a block sharpener for my ACE heads,It is a two file affair with the files screwed to a block of wood with a "V" notch routed in the wood. After I get a full contact pass made on both sides of the head,using lighter presure as I progress, I will make a few passes on my leather stop and that will pop hairs just fine.
Good luck.

[seabass]

it is in the video dannybows,steve

[razorsharptokill]

KME will definetley do the trick.

[mnbearbaiter]

The head i have doesnt have the double or triple lam beefed up tip! Its calles the 165gr Super Express, a longer and wider head, but not by much than than the Ace Originals! Ive always been fond of the Fred Bear Edge, anybody have any issues with that?

[Fletcher]

The Ace heads are good steel and will work with either type edge.  I prefer a honed edge, but that is just my preference.  I set the edge with a file, hone it with a good set of crock sticks and finish with a strop.

[straitera]

Just put Ace 160's on some heavier wood arrows & really love them. Plenty of total weight & no significant speed loss from my heavier bows. The BH's are very easy to get razor sharp w/my grinder & honing wheels.

As far a Fred Bear edge.., whatever works. IMO razor sharp is way better. Less friction means better penetration. A complete passthrough the boiler room makes trailing easy.

[onewhohasfun]

Funny, but I can't remember ever seeing a custom knife with the Fred Bear Edge on it. Must of missed it somehow.

[Mudd]

If I'm not mistaken the Fred Bear edge straitera is referring to only relates to broadheads.

There are at least a couple of trains of thought on what makes for the best edge on a broadhead.

The ragged edged that is left by just using a file, a kind of serrated edge.

One other is the surgical edge which is a smoother yet very sharp edge.

Forrest if I'm off base please set me straitera ..lol

God bless,Mudd

[2treks]

I agree with Straitera,In 2000-2001 I shot a buck and a doe,one week apart,same tree. The buck had a file sharp cheetah(by Elberg), poor blood trail despite a good shot.Tight behind the shoulder,hole on both sides about mid-way up. The doe had a great bloodtrail with a lesser hit but a razor sharp head.This sold me on what I wanted for sharp. YES, a filed edge will work but if I have the time,I will hone them to a razor.

[two4hooking]

Why is it referred to as a Fred Bear edge??  I thought I read about Howard Hill using this method in Hunting the hard way....I know Fred was a master promoter but shouldn't it be a Howard Hill edge??????

[Mudd]

I must as thick as a brick sometimes...lol

Go figure!!

I sure owe onewhohasfun an apology.

Sorry my friend for not seeing your post for what it was.


God bless,Mudd

[mnbearbaiter]

525gr German Pine arrow, 165gr Ace Express broadhead(SHARP), total arrow weight of 690gr with about 14-15% FOC! Should be a helluva penetrator!!!

[razorsharptokill]

I have also heard that the honed scalpel like edge causes the animal to not run as far out of fear. Less painful wound I guess. Absolutely no way to back that up though.