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Offline d from phx

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Hybrid Longbows?
« on: December 18, 2010, 12:05:00 PM »
Does anyone shoot a hybrid longbow in 3D or field competition? Thinking of shooting one and would be interested in hearing what you shoot and why.

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2010, 02:08:00 PM »
Especially any info on the Morrison Dakota in a heavier weight? Are these hybrids available in straight handle grips? I know they're fast but are they finiky to shoot?
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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2010, 02:17:00 PM »
I shoot a hybrid, Fedora, at 62" and have no real problems with it. It is however a little finicky about spine of wood arrows. I just add 5# and they  seem to work great. With alum no problems.

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2010, 03:10:00 PM »
I shoot a Zach Ferguson Z58 71# at 29# shooting a 30" 2219 for hunting and 3D and could not be more happy. Shoots fast even though I shoot a fairly heavy arrow. Zach can build this bow with any grip you like including straight. I like the hybred style bow, stable like a longbow with the speed of a recurve.

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2010, 03:20:00 PM »
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Originally posted by d from phx:
Does anyone shoot a hybrid longbow in 3D or field competition? Thinking of shooting one and would be interested in hearing what you shoot and why.
i don't understand yer question.  what difference does it matter what stickbow style or type you shoot as long as it meets the rules?

any longbow that shows reflex at the tips is illegal for ifaa competition, but will be legal for most other shooting events.  most hybrids show tip reflex when braced.  there are stealth r/d hybrids that won't, and their braced limb shape is classic "D".

but again, what does it matter?  if yer a traditional bowhunter, the reason for a 3d event is practice for ... hunting.  anything else means yer in it for the points score.  the only score i want is a dead hog or deer.  ymmv.
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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2010, 03:58:00 PM »
Yes, I shoot an R/D in 3D all the time. It is my hunting bow and I use it for all the reasons Rob outlined above.
Personally I have zero interest in shooting with folks whose stabilizers are longer than their bows anyway.

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2010, 06:43:00 PM »
Had one hybrid I loved.

Had another hybrid I loved more.
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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2010, 07:20:00 PM »
With all due respect Rob, I don't understand your negative answer to the question. Is there something wrong with it that I am not seeing? I thought discussion of 3D was okay here. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Offline Jerry Jeffer

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2010, 07:37:00 PM »
Just my opinion here. First, I think of a long bow as a long bow, and a Hybrid as a Hybrid. Secondly, I also don't understand the crabby Granny reply either.
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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2010, 09:18:00 PM »
I had a Morrison Dakota and now have a Morrison Cougar 60" 70# at 28".

Uber fast, super quiet and I definately plan on shooting 3 D with it in a couple months.

It will stick an arrow so deep in the foam, I will be laughing when other guys try and pull the arrow out.

My Morison Cougar is a beast. I love it.
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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2010, 09:46:00 PM »
Well at least he wasn't told to do a search!  ;) ....Phil

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2010, 11:03:00 PM »
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Does anyone shoot a hybrid longbow in 3D or field competition? Thinking of shooting one and would be interested in hearing what you shoot and why.
crabby reply?  are you guys serious?

i will repeat.  i don't understand this question.

what is the intent?  what does it matter what kinda stickbow ya shoot for competition?
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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2010, 11:13:00 PM »
I shoot a mild/moderate deflex/reflex longbow for 3-D.  It's a Chek-Mate Crusader.  I chose it originally because of the lack of shock, plus it's quick and quiet.

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2010, 11:32:00 PM »
if at all, the ONLY consideration of what stickbow to shoot in comps are the gear/bow rules.  other than that, shoot whatever the heck ya like!  

and, fwiw, we've always allowed discussions about 3d events simply because their purpose is aligned with traditional bowhunting.  the origin of almost all field events harks back to redlands, roving and the nfaa.  all meant to be tune-ups and practice for  ... yes, bowhunting!   :cool:
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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2010, 11:39:00 PM »
ishoot4thrills ... I have to agree ...

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2010, 12:13:00 AM »
Man Rob,

Who put a burr in your huntin' jacket? Don was simply asking a question.

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2010, 01:05:00 AM »
I am sure alot of guys shoot what are referred to as hybrids in 3-D longbow class at shoots that allow it.The more radical limbed hybrids are very popular bows these days for good reason.

When I shot 3-d I used a very mild R and D that was cut 1/8th from center and had a small lighweight riser with a low style grip.

Looked pretty much like what you would think a long bow should look like in the classic sense.More modern ofcourse though compared to the English longbow with many differences in materials,building technique and some differences in design features as well.

Some shoots criteria or standards are more restrictive than others.Like the TX. State Longbow Championships.I think thats what the competition is called.Or maybe the Howard Hill competion down South.Some stipulate the use of wood arrows in traditional mens longbow class as well.Some have different divisions in the longbow class.

It might be nice to have a longer more traditional longbow for shoots that require it and also a hybrid for other shoots that are more lenient in the rules and accept hybrids,straight limbed bows,mild reflex and reflex/deflex and even 3 piece bows with hybrid or less radical limbs like the Pronghorns etc and allow bows cut to center or past center.

Its all good whether you just wanna compete to see how you comapare to other shooters and or if you wanna shoot for fun and or practice for your upcoming hunting season.Or all 3 of the above all at once.In the end its a competition against yourself to see how profecient you can be with a very challenging weapon thats gonna test you in many ways

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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2010, 06:20:00 AM »
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Man Rob,

Who put a burr in your huntin' jacket? Don was simply asking a question.
geez, i must be stoopid 'cause i have no clue whatsoever as to why don asked such a question. can you set me straight, please?
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Re: Hybrid Longbows?
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2010, 06:25:00 AM »
Curiosity? Boredom? I dunno, but I respect his reasons.

Gotta go to work now though. I'll check back later.
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