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Author Topic: My Improved Spine Tester  (Read 917 times)

Offline Van/TX

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2007, 06:25:00 PM »
Very impressive!  You have done your homework  :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:  ...Van
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Offline Van/TX

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #21 on: June 04, 2007, 06:30:00 PM »
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"Easton Standard"  ???????
 
Agree with Falk.  Folks always trying to fix stuff that ain't broke....Van
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Offline rbbhunt

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #22 on: June 04, 2007, 09:13:00 PM »
First class job on the spine tester
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Offline Cupcake

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #23 on: June 04, 2007, 10:50:00 PM »
Thanks for all of the compliments on my spine tester.

I want to answer some questions that were asked.

For Ray - the software I used was AutoCad, a drafting design program.  Everything is simple triganometry.  I printed on a laser printer.

Falk and Van/Tx - I said Easton standard only because I was in a hurry.  I believe most arrow manufacturers use the American Society for Testing and Materials (ASTM) Standard - 28 inch support span, 29 inch arrow shaft and 880 grams (1.94 pounds) weight.  The deflection of the shaft is reported from this measurement.

The Archery Manufacturers and Merchants Organization (AMO) standard is 26 inch span and 2.0 pounds.  The AMO spine is then 26/deflection.

By the way, tha AMO has renamed itself the Archery Trade Association (ATA)

I have translated the spine measurements of Easton aluminum arrow shafts to the AMO spine by using beam deflection theory.  I have tested as many Easton shafts as I can get my hands on and have verified that my translation is correct.  I will hopefully be able to post this info when I get more time.

Kevin

Offline ArcticArcher

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2007, 01:16:00 AM »
Kevin,

Very impressive piece of equipment you put together!!

However, I do have a comment/question  

When has Trig EVER been SIMPLE?  :confused:    :)
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Offline DesertDude

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2007, 01:26:00 AM »
Ok Kevin now your just showing off!!!!!  Kevin joined our group of stick bow shooters awile back. I thought he ws a bit strange at first till he told me what he did for a living,  yep you guessed it....."Rocket Sciencetist" or somthing very close to it.  This guy has some real talent.... Picked all our brains (what little we have) about Traditional Archery, he's like a mop. great job on the tester, and oh ya...I want one...... DesertDude
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Offline Cutty47

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2007, 01:53:00 AM »
Forget the spine tester, when are you going to start taking bow orders? Lol...

Offline Cupcake

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2007, 10:37:00 PM »
Cutty,
Bows are on my list of things I want to try but I have this wild hair to perfect a spine tester first.  Then I need to start making wood arrows.

Desertdude has been a great friend and mentor in trad archery and I think I can lay part of the blame for my love of this sport on him.

Kevin

Offline Falk

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2007, 07:25:00 AM »
Cutty,
yes, I do bareshaft my woodies! And of course it works! Why not? And, if you think about it, it would make any spinetester unnescessary if we were not to lazy to do it for every shaft ... !
Your bow is a spine-tester after all! Better so: a tester for dynamic spine!

I don't argue about the "add 5# for FF, minus 10# for 2" of stringfollow" etc. thing! No! I agree totally here!
But that's not the point! AMO standard is also measured by deflection - only later translated into pounds - for convenience of the customer.

Don't read your spine in pounds and only thing you have to do is find yourself shafts with a deflection of, say .325" - or somewhere close to it. Done!
And it is of NO help to force new "standards" into existing fields. WHY change the old 26" 2lbs. standard? Now you have to know both! Now you have to look very carefully each time, as not to mix them and by which you order shafts etc. And make sure the pro shop owner also knows the problem. Big confusion!

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Falk

Offline Aeronut

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2007, 08:08:00 AM »
Put me in line for one Kevin if you decide to manufacture.  I'll trade you a batch of wood shafts (probably have to be a big batch).

Good looking craftsmanship!

Dennis

Offline Cutty47

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2007, 10:28:00 AM »
Falk,

You're right.  Thanks for educating me on the fact that AMO standard was first measured in deflection, then translated into pounds.  I love the wealth of info on this site.

Personally, I haven't had the same luck bareshafting woodies as compared with carbons, or aluminums, and I know of quite a few archers, much more accomplished, and experienced than I who don't believe in bareshafting woodies-- Paul Brunner comes to mind.  

But I'm certainly not dismissing your personal experience, and if it works for you I'll bet you have a heck of a release.

Offline M60gunner

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2007, 03:22:00 PM »
Hey Kevin, have you given anymore thought to making the scale fold down for storage? I was real impressed with your whole project. Not only were to able to design the tester but you did a real great job crafting it.
See ya Sunday, Tom M.

Offline Cupcake

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2007, 09:56:00 PM »
Tom,
I worked on that a bit last night and it will be incorporated in the design in the future, not hard to do.
Til Sunday,
Kevin

Offline Big Dave

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Re: My Improved Spine Tester
« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2007, 06:52:00 PM »
:thumbsup:  good looking spine tester   :thumbsup:
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