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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2011, 03:05:00 PM »
I moisten a rag and I never had any issue,if not for stripping off the feather,so difficult!!
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2011, 03:01:00 PM »
Since this thread has ran it's course, will ask again:

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NorthernCaliforniaHunter - "been using it on my AD Trads to get the writing off"


Dang, didn't know that and thanx for the info. I know acetone won't take the labeling off Carbonwoods, and have been wondering and debating what next carbon shafts to go with since Carbonwoods have been discontinued, or what other types carbon shafts acetone will remove writing and labeling if DannyBows or others would be kind enough will enlighten me.

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2011, 03:15:00 PM »
I really like carbon shafts, especially Beman MFX Classics. Fletching new shafts is no problem, keep em clean and wipe down with 91% Alcohol to be sure.  However, eventually shafts need to be reflected if not lost or broken. Aluminum is soooo much easier to get the old fletching off. I always used knifes or razors to get the quill and all glue off, then soak for 10 minutes in acetone, wash off and wipe with alcohol.  However, I nearly always damage the carbon shaft when trying to remove the glue and quill from them.  I'm going to try the dull knife on them next time -- I've always used sharp knifes or razor blades and they dig in.

The last batch I worked on (a few days ago) i soaked in Acetone for about 10 minutes and wiped them down. No problems so far but if the dull blade works I'll stay away from the acetone.

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2011, 04:13:00 PM »
Here's a doozy for ya and I need some help. I'm re-fletching a dozen older Grizzlystiks and some had wraps, some had fletching applied directly to the shaft. I need to clean off either sticky wrap adhesive or remove fletch-tite/similar from these Grizzlystiks.

I am not concerned with the slick finish at nock end, as it will be hidden under a new wrap.

MEK, lacquer thinner, acetone? I called BA and queried "Jenny" and apparently WARM SOAPY WATER will remove glue residue and old fletching glue now. OK. Interesting, if you have a year or two....I suppose. Man those people are weird. Iguess we are more cordial in TX than in AK.

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2011, 07:02:00 PM »
I went ahead and took mineral spirits to the sticky ones.....worked like a charm. On the others, the previous owner used crazy glue, and as a wrap will be covering these, I simply hand sanded the ends with 220 sandpaper. Perfect enough. Seeing how the inserts are probably installed with crazy glue, I'm probably going to trim them from the nock end to save headaches. Another note, you need AT LEAST 1" wide wraps to wrap these.

Guess what's under that slick layer and pretty woven layer of carbon fiber? Straight black carbon just like a regular 'ol carbon arrow.....huh!
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2011, 09:19:00 PM »
Will denatured alcohol take the writing off AD shafts?
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2011, 09:23:00 PM »
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I use denatured alcohol to wipe down the shaft and I always use arrow wraps on my carbons.It makes them so much easier to redo later without having to scrape off old or damaged feathers.And I never have a problem with feathers not staying on.
I use the alchohol too, but not the wraps.

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2011, 09:24:00 PM »
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Will denatured alcohol take the writing off AD shafts?
I do not know about the AD's but it will take it off of the black GoldTips.

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2011, 03:59:00 PM »
Bisch - How 'bout acetone and Gold Tip writing? ...Thanx

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2011, 08:48:00 PM »
I used acetone on Gold tip and it took some of the color out of them therefore I think it must damage the integrity some what but I don't know. It did work though.
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2011, 10:39:00 PM »
Buckskin57 - It did work to take the labeling off?

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #31 on: January 17, 2011, 08:14:00 AM »
I production of carbon tubing for bicycles acetone is used to remove the foam form, I'll continue using it to clean my arrows.

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #32 on: January 17, 2011, 08:25:00 AM »
acetone to remove carbon arrow labels, naphtha (lighter fluid) to clean the fletch area.
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #33 on: January 17, 2011, 09:07:00 AM »
In my earlier post when I spoke to Beman (Easton) tech support, they did not claim any structural damage to MFX shafting with Acetone but that it left a surface film which would adversely affect adhesives to the shaft. Since fletching coming off was why I was contacting them, I took him to be correct and when I re-fletched after cleaning with the 91% Isopopyl alcohol they reccomend, the fletching remained on the shafts and is there still. As an afterthought, the culprit in this case is probably the "wood grain" film applied over the carbon shaft being adversely affected.

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #34 on: January 17, 2011, 09:20:00 AM »
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I've been using it on my AD Trads to get the writing off and have had no issues whatsoever. I suppose you don't want to soak the shafts in it, but a moistened rag shouldn't penetrate the fibers. I'd say go for it.
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #35 on: January 17, 2011, 09:22:00 AM »
Been using it for sometime without any ill experiences.
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #36 on: January 17, 2011, 10:35:00 AM »
I think where this got started is acetone is used to thin epoxy/polyester based finishes. When I put fiberglass over cedar plank boats we use acetone to slow the harding process so the resin soaks into the wood more. I'm not certain what kind of resin is used in the making of carbon shafts.

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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2011, 05:22:00 PM »
I just removed the labels from two dozen CE arrows in about 5 minutes.  0000 steel wool soaked in non-acetone nail polish remover (thanks Mom). I did 12 new Predator IIs lickety split.  The finish on the CE Heritages was a little harder, but they still came off well.  They look sharp.  Now onto the fletching.  That should take a while.
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2011, 06:15:00 PM »
I have also been using it for years on carbons... AD's have never shown any adverse effects...

As to a comment above regarding not using it on Beemans about a residue... there is no residue with acetone.  It evaporates and leaves verry little residue..(non oily) You are right, the residue is crap from their camo graphic junk
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Re: Acetone and carbons
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2011, 07:09:00 PM »
Comet Cleanser with Bleach was what the owner of Carbon Express recomended in a Petersons Bowhunting podcast interview. Rinse and dry with lint free cloth. Used it and it works great.
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