whats so wrong with parralel seconds and stumpers?

[$bowhunter$]

well i found some compressed parallel stumper and second ramin arrows for dirt cheap. what so bad about seconds and stumpers that make them not good enough for hunting arrows?

steven

[JamesV]

They might not be as uniform but they will fly good. I have built arrows from shafts that have been culled thru several times and they for the most part flew good. I am all for the CHEAP

James.................

[$bowhunter$]

yea. i like cheap to. i seen there super heavy and a hardwood so i thought they might be good to use for hunting. if not ill have about 12 flu flu's. there only 8 bucks a dozen so i wont be out much. ill probly have to give it a try

[Mike Vines]

if anything, either way it gives you great practice at making arrows.

[ronp]

I was going to pick some up and try to make some flu-flus.  Where can we order some?

[wingnut]

Well this is from an old guy so take it that way.  If you have to go cheap do it on the bow and buy the best arrows and broadheads you can afford.  The broadhead does the work and the arrow delivers it.  In all cases, a better arrow will shoot better then culls and you want to shoot the best you can.

Mike

[$bowhunter$]

i found them at twig archery. and grapes is right. it will give me some practice making arrows

[Rob DiStefano]

what mike just typed.  the arrow is way more important than the bow.  

plus, woodies need to be inspected carefully for grain runout.  a woodie exploding on release is not a fun thing.

[Bud B.]

Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
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plus, woodies need to be inspected carefully for grain runout.  a woodie exploding on release is not a fun thing.

Yep. Be sure to inspect the grain.

[$bowhunter$]

what should i look for in ramin grain?


steven

[Larry m]

Spine and weigh them and get them as close as you can. Depending on how many you have, bundle together in closeness. After arrows are made, number in order again for closeness. If your getting good flight then you have done well.

[ch1ch2]

I have cheap bows and medium price bows.  I have cheap, medium and expensive arrows,  Better arrows fly better than cheap regardless of the bow.  The better bows feel better and shoot a little better but the BIG difference is the quality of the arrow.

[frank bullitt]

"Any stick do for bow - good arrow dam heap work-ugh!"  :D

[Bud B.]

Originally posted by $bowhunter$:
what should i look for in ramin grain?


steven

Look for the darker growth rings that
"run out" mid shaft. Better shafts will have the grain run the full length of the arrow shaft or very close to the ends.

Make sure the grain is flat or horizontal, or if you prefer, perpendicular to the bow riser. It should run exactly against the string and not up and down in line with the string. Align your nock appropriately so the cock feather is with the grain.

Check your pm for a link to a photo of grain runout.

[$bowhunter$]

it says there interlocking grain unlike cedar. what in the world does that mean?


steven

[$bowhunter$]

ttt

[Liquid Amber]

I assume you are talking about ramin, the name collectively used for a number of different, but similiar hardwood species from Asia.  It depends upon the context "interlocking grain" is used in.  

In this case, they are likely telling you the wood is durable and not to worry about the grain, because ramin doesn't split easily, unlike Port Orford cedar, which has straight grain and does split easily, but is less durable.

[$bowhunter$]

ok. thanks you liquid amber. i was startinn to worry if thed blow up in my face when i shot

thanks,
steven

[Morgan Anderson]

I would try to find the best arrow I could to hunt with, that being said all of my friends and I shoot Twig shafts... John is a great guy and his "seconds" are as good as normal shafts I have seen from other places.

[Barney]

I used to shoot alot of the Twig shafts. Stumpers and the tapered "passthrus" Never got an "unsafe" stumper and had more than a few animals fall to the passthrus.