Question for you stringmakers

[gvdocholiday]

Now...supposed I wanna craft a 10strand d97 flemish string with padded endloops.  Which I do.

I realize I'm going to need to double serve the center serving in order to get proper nock fit.  

I use three different nocks for three different arrows for three different purposes out of the same bow.  I've found that Easton supernocks, bohning double lock nocks, and the CX TXC(their standard)nock all pretty much have the same size throat so to speak.

So...for those of you who are familiar...what size center serving will I need that will allow me to double serve and still get tension?  

I'm looking at Halo and Crown.

[Nosight]

Gv, welcome to the world of "what do I do now".

I build my onw soft srings( thats what we call low strand strings)I have found out through trial and error one will need to get several diferant size survings to do what you want.

What I ended up doing was making a string about 15" long and the serving it. Test the nock strip it down and do it again untill I found what worked.

Just a list of some of the servings that I have,.018,.020,.025,.030,I also have 2 rolls of silk serving that measure.013,and.017. The silk is used as a sublayer not as a final seving just does not hold up in my opinon.

Do a search on this subject and you will find several enteries that have differant ways of doing what you are trying to do.

Hope this helps...

Later.....Buzz

[LBR]

.025 62XS (BCY) with the tag end running the full length of the serving might suit you.  Worst case scenario, you could add a few wraps of dental floss at the nock point for a tighter fit.  Finish off with super glue.

If you don't like that, .014 Halo might work.  Do a half-serving, then serve back over it with a full serving.  Doing a half for a base adds less weight.

.030 Halo on tiny string will slip sooner or later--if you have a shorter draw, longer bow, and/or lighter draw weight it will stay in place longer, but still has a much better chance of slipping than the other two.

[Lee Robinson .]

I like the number 62 braid by BCY. For a three ply 9 strand dynaflight97, I use a double serving of 0.021 #62 with the lower serving only covering the area that the bowsquare would sit on (about 3"), and then I serve the string again on top of this for the normal length (about 8"). Pad the loops to a total loop count of about 15-18 strands.

[Bent Rig]

I second LBR recommendation to wrap dental floss(waxed) , it will definitely protect the serving and aid to fit the nock's at the same time .  

[Benny Nganabbarru]

I also use cotton thread and super glue over the serving just underneath the brass nock to pack it out for arrow nock fit. When it gets worn, which isn't for a long time, I wrap more over it.

[frank bullitt]

Bryan, my first ? is what size, and material are you shooting now with those nocks?

[wtpops]

With a D97 10 strand you might be able to get away with Halo .24 single serve but the best if you are going to build your own is to get an assortment of sizes.

[Razorbak]

use a 3" piece of masking tape (1/2" or 3/4")and wrap it about 1 1/2 times around string where nock goes and you can put some superglue on tape and rub in if desired and then after glue dries..serve with either .25 or .30 and adjust the tension and then serve about 2" above tape and 2" below tape..will fit nock and last long time and I HAVE NEVER HAD 1 SLIP OR COME UNDONE ...you will be surprised how easy and how durable it is and these were for 6 to 9 string strings..to beef up..add about 4 extra lays per bundle and your good to go

[Doug in MN]

Originally posted by LBR:
  Worst case scenario, you could add a few wraps of dental floss at the nock point.

Plus you get the bonus of the minty scent.
On top of that it works perfectly.

D

[Rob DiStefano]

all my bowstrings are 8 strand bcy dyneema (d'02 or d'97).  

i use .019" halo center serving for a loose fit on carbon (bohning signature) and wood (bohning classic 11/32") arrow nocks.  

i never ever want a tight or even a 'pinch' fit since i shoot split finger, not three under.    

personally, i don't like using braid for center servings as it's not as slick feeling as halo.  halo is *incredibly* tough stuff!

i'd much rather size the center serving thread than mess with building up the serving area by any means.

[Burnsie]

I love Halo serving - tough and smooth.

[gvdocholiday]

Right now I'm shooting stock flemish FF strings from 3rivers...mostly because I'm a newb and that's what's available.  

I do like the suggestion for serving the baselayer shorter than the top layer.  I had always pictured in my mind to run the 8" serving first then depending on where my nock height falls, serve the shorter length on top.  

I shoot three fingers under and have a big nose.  I use tied nock points otherwise a brass nock will gouge a channel down my right nostril...not pleasant feeling.  

I have a lot of people saying that skinny strings are a fad and pointless...that what I gain in performance I'll loose with extra weight in center serving.  But I've never heard anyone say that a skinny string is louder...in fact it seems everyone says they are quieter, and I'm purely a hunter with my trad gear and quiet makes me happy.  

I appreciate all the recommendations, and I feel I'll be getting a couple more spools of halo to play with.  

Right now I've settled on .019, multiplying that by 4 and adding in the d97 .014 diameter with 10-14 strands, I should still come in thinner than what my current strings are.  I also like the idea of double serving under my set nocking location for comfort on my fingers through the glove.  

Also, I've never had a problem with forearm slap so I don't feel that I'd even need 8" of serving for the overall length.  However, I feel that if I did a shorter base length with a longer top coat that I would be able to worry less about serving separation.

[gvdocholiday]

Welp, made a couple of strings last night.  First one was for my Belcher TTSS with Samick Extremes.  Replaced a 3rivers flemish string for my 10strand padded to 18 d97 with .019 halo single served.  Just enough serving so there's about half an inch above the nocking point and half an inch below my ring finger.  

Managed to eliminate over half of the string twists with my string compared to the 3rivers.  

Nock fit with bohning double lock nocks were good, I have room to go either way without having any adverse effects.  

Was shooting a 420grain beman bowhunter 500 at 181 fps 10shot average.  With my string, same arrow, same brace, 193fps, quieter, but gave my arrow a weak spine indicator by about half an inch at 6ft.  Took some more twists out and bareshafted perfect at 193 still.  

One thing I don't like about halo...it doesn't melt nearly as good as whatever it was I had on my serving jig when I bought it from Bohning.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by gvdocholiday:
... One thing I don't like about halo...it doesn't melt nearly as good as whatever it was I had on my serving jig when I bought it from Bohning.

spectra won't melt like nylon, thankfully!

if you mean 'melt' as to ball up the tag ends, don't do that.  cut them flush after whipping and put a tiny spot of water thin cya for added insurance.