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Offline hydrasport205

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fishtailing arrows
« on: January 23, 2011, 06:47:00 PM »
quick question I know that the up and down is do to the knocking point to high or to low  but what makes my arrows fish tail from side to side?  and how to correct it?   thanks  Rob

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 06:53:00 PM »
Usually brace height sometimes too stiff an arrow-overspined.

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 06:56:00 PM »
wrong spine!
questionable release!

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 06:59:00 PM »
shooting a full lenght 3555 gold tip with 145 grain field point. out of a 45# longbow 60"

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 07:02:00 PM »
whats your draw length tho?

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 07:11:00 PM »
And what kinda rest are you using.
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Offline hydrasport205

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 07:15:00 PM »
draw length about 29 inches maybe 30  rest is velcro

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 07:18:00 PM »
should the brace height be moved up or down? its on 7 1/4" now its a southern draw longbow

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 07:19:00 PM »
You can adjust the strike plate to compensate for the spine difference, add a tooth pick behind the strike plate(brings it out a little) and see what happens.Feel free to correct me I dont have to do this on my bows.
 
You should know what the draw is 29 or 30 for sure.
  And you should take a tip-less arrow and nock it on the bow place a clothespin on the front of the arrow at touching the riser and slowly draw back.to your anchor this will aid in measuring your draw length.Measure from the nock to the clothes pin (part facing the rear of the arrow.
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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2011, 07:28:00 PM »
And on my longbow I prefer to use a thin piece of leather for the rest and plate.The brace should be moved up or down till you find the sweet spot that gives little to no hand shock and makes the bow quiet.If it is loud when you release try going up a little(1/4 increments) till it sounds and feels good.
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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2011, 07:42:00 PM »
wow im only a 27" draw

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2011, 07:49:00 PM »
Now you can go to Stu's calculator and add the bow and your set up info and figure out what you need arrow wise.2-3" makes a difference in length
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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2011, 08:01:00 PM »
ok next question how do i get to Stu's calculator and thanks alot you have been a great help

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2011, 08:04:00 PM »
just click it and download it and read about it.
 http://www.heilakka.com/stumiller/
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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2011, 08:19:00 PM »
There is some good info here:   www.Bowmaker.net

I spent a lot of time in the "tuning" section there.  Learned lots!

Suggestion: Maybe you should do a search.  i am sure there is a metric ton of info about tuning arrows to bows

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2011, 08:40:00 PM »
Robert did you get it?
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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2011, 09:44:00 PM »
I'd say more than a metric ton. I nearly wrecked my shoulder. Between trying to bareshaft tune, and bad form.

Recently getting back into the swing of things, I found stu's calculator. It saved me alot of headache, and allowed me to work on building strength to achieve proper form. This time around my form is is good enough so I can confirm the spines I come up with on the calculator.

I should make it clear that ALL measuements fo bow weight, center cut, draw length etc... must be accurately figured out to get quality results.

Good luck.

Brian

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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2011, 10:08:00 PM »
here is direct link to bow tuning
 http://www.bowmaker.net/tuning.htm
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Re: fishtailing arrows
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2011, 11:35:00 AM »
I got it  thanks a bunch you all  helped me out alot

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