I had a post couple of days ago about my goals for trad hunting for this year, 2 was taking a deer and turkey with a flint tip, wooden arrow. I made up a few this weeka and shot them yesterday. WOW! about 600grains, and quiet as a mouse and hit where I looked out to 20 yards, which is my self imposed limit, and will try to keep it closer to 15yds. These heads really penetrated, and after about a dozen shots each, still looked great. I am getting stoked for turkey season, about 10 weeks away, cmon thunderchickens!!