double nocks on string

[SEMO_HUNTER]

I've experienced this same thing as well, using B50 for my selfbows I have to add more brace ht. at least once, sometimes twice before it settles in good. I have had the nocking point get higher on me when adding more twist. I don't know why but sometimes it just does. That's why I use 2 brass nocks for ease of adjustment. The padded serving/knock tied on looks nice and it's a great idea, don't get me wrong I'm not knocking Charlie's advice at all. He knows his stuff that's for sure.
Maybe it's just a matter of personal preferrence?
In theory the nock shouldn't move up or down when adding twist to the string, but rarely does "theory" ever pan out for me.
Just call me "Bad Luck Shleprock"  

[Charlie Lamb]

No blasphemy at all my friend. I can be wrong like anyone else.... and am frequently. Having said that, I still disagree.
   

[legends1]

Ok,I had to set this straight.I took a bow and over and under twisted the string.I used a new and older used string.I first tested by only twisting one end.Every time it was checked i saw no change.When you twist one end of a string it adjust the whole length of the string not just one end.I didnt do this to discredit anyone.Just also wanted to confirm again for myself.

[Zradix]

Charlie,

That is a GREAT looking way to address the problem.
No big bumps on the string wearing out your tab.
Lil thicker string to hold on to which I like.
Looks trick as all get out.

I like it!

I am curious though..
Why do you tie the nock-like bump on the bottom?
Is the extra serving just not quite enough to keep the arrow from sliding?

Thanks    

[Keefer]

Not 100% sure on this but the tie on can be adjustable up or down when tuning the arrow but I tried making a serving type nock and I couldn't twist it..I quess if you know exactly where the nock height needs to be you can serve them...Keefers ,<")))><

[Charlie Lamb]

Zadrix... The "bump" is put there so that the nocking location can be felt while keeping your eye on the target.
It could as easilly be placed so it's above the nock of the arrow.
Double serving alone would keep the arrow in place.

Keefer... I usually use a small piece of masking tape for a nocking point when setting up a new string. Once I've extablished where it needs to be I serve on the permanent nocking point.
Never had one wear out or wear on my glove/tab.

When I start laying up the "bump" I put superglue on each layer. I don't even bother to tie it off... just glue the tag end down.
Once it's dry it can (and should) be smoothed off with an Emory board or sandpaper.

For what it's worth, my nocking points always end up at the same height on whatever bow I'm shooting.... height on a longbow is different than what it is on a recurve, but still consistent from bow to bow.

This is certainly not the only way to do it. It's just the way I do it.

[Zradix]

Thanks for the reply Mr Lamb.

Makes good sense. Could definitely be one of those things you learn the hard way in the field.

I think I'll give this one a try.
WWCLD?....lol

Thank you
   

[Charlie Lamb]

Now that's funny right there!!
   :D

[Randy Morin]

I have become a guy who serves above and below for my nock point.  I use 8125 string material and twist it up before wrapping it around the string to make it round and more durable.  It's real fast and wears like iron.

I used to use the 10 knot knot so I could twist up or down but it moved alot from the string rolling off my fingers.  

Now I pretty much do what charlie does witht he making tape until I'm tuned and then serve on two permanent points.  Never had them move from string stretch or twisting of string.  I do not bother with the buit up area like in Charlies post so mine are nice and smooth right up to both sides of the nock.

[Montanawidower]

Agreed to disagree      I see it primarily when breaking in brand new strings.  I think its a variable of the new string being in flux.  But who knows, there are so many variables.  I'm kind of suprised.... I thought that it was just understood.  Heck a guy even published and article about it?  Just goes to show.  
 
Regardless, for those who haven't made up an opinion, check and track your nocking point next time you break in a string.  I think you might be suprised.  

PS When I was using more brass nocking points, (and I felt like things were done settling in),  I would throw a couple of knots of serving below and above my nock points. (Sort of low committal hybrid.)  Seemed to work great.  my two cents

[Randy Morin]

I'll keep a closer watch next time I am breaking in a new string Jeff.    

[ishoot4thrills]

Originally posted by Zradix:
Thanks for the reply Mr Lamb...........I think I'll give this one a try.............WWCLD?....lol

Thank you