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Author Topic: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??  (Read 335 times)

Offline Three Finger

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Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« on: April 29, 2011, 09:36:00 PM »
I a have some 2114 that I shoot and I found some of my dads old 2213 cut to the same length. They shoot almost the same with a 175g point out of my 48# recurve. Is there much difference in there spine.
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Offline Night Wing

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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2011, 10:23:00 PM »
Actually, there is. The spine for a 2114 is .510 and the spine for a 2213 is (.460).
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2011, 10:44:00 PM »
Thanks Night Wing. I'm still a rookie. Been at it about 2 yrs but learning all the time. Thanks for the help.
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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2011, 11:04:00 PM »
The 2212 arrow I shoot at (.505), is very close to your 2114 which is (.510).
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2011, 02:47:00 PM »
I love that 2114 cut to 29" with 125 tip for my 45-50# bows.  Yep, the 2213 is a bit stiffer and works better for 50-55# bows.  

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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2011, 07:28:00 AM »
Do you think 150g point or 175g is ok for my 2114 cut to 28 out of my bow. Its 48# at 28 but my draw is 27. My guess is I pull 45#. I have been shooting 175g. But after reading Blackhawk's I may have to much weight up front. They are shooting great with 175.
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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2011, 08:47:00 AM »
Everyone is different. What works for some might not work for others. Keep that in mind.

If the 2114 is hitting what you're aimimg at, at 20 yards and under and flies like a dart without any side to side movement on it's way to the target with the 175 grain point weigth, I'd wouldn't be subtracting any point weight.

But, for experimentation purposes, if you have some 150 grain field points, put one on another 2114 arrow and then shoot both arrows against each other for a comparison in flight and where each impacts on a target.

If you've got three 2114 arrows and some 125 grain field points, put a 125 grain field point on a third 2114 arrow and then shoot at a spot on a target from 20 yards and this way, you can compare all three arrows against each other in flight.

With all three 2114 arrows having different point weights, all three arrows usually "won't" hit in the same place on a target when shot from 20 yards. A 20 yard distance always tells the tale for me.
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2011, 03:14:00 PM »
Thanks Night Wing. I have all those points and I will try that to see which one is best. What part of Texas are you from. I grew up in Bossier City, LA. And have a lot of relatives in the Dallas and Tyler area. Thanks again.
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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2011, 11:25:00 PM »
I do a lot of experimentation with different point weights in conjunction with raising and lowering of the brace height with regards to shooting different size spine aluminum arrows.

As an example, both of my recurves can shoot the same 32", 2212 aluminum arrow with an 80 grain point weight with an overall arrow weight of 426 grains. But, in order to do that, my 42# bow has a brace height of 7 7/8" while my 37# bow has a brace height of 8 1/4".

I live in a small town in southeast Texas called Magnolia which you've probably never heard of. It's about 38 miles northwest of downtown Houston, Texas.
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

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Re: Difference in spine in a 2114 and 2213 ??
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2011, 10:28:00 AM »
While it will help to shoot field points, I don't trust results until I shoot a broadhead.  I first make sure the BH is hitting where I'm looking.  Next I shoot them throught paper on a calm day.  I start at 15 to 17 feet and go to 20 yards.  Probably no need to go past 12 yards.  At 17 feet the arrow should be out of paradox and if flying correctly will give you the same reading beyond.

To set up paper I drill a small hole through four wire type (spring loaded) clothes pins and attach a piece of twine about 2 feet long.  For the bottom of the paper I use a piece of molding about foot longer than a piece of paper and attach the clothes pin with the twine on each side.  At my club we have to posts about 5 feet apart just in front of a sand bunker.  The other two clothes pins are attached to the posts by string.  Now, a piece of newspaper is suspented by these two clothes pins and the tension for the bottom of the newspaper is supplied by the moldings two clothes pins.  Start shooting, very cheap and affective.

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