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Author Topic: Arrows sticking in like this /  (Read 290 times)

Offline bsoper

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Arrows sticking in like this /
« on: May 30, 2011, 03:23:00 PM »
Shooting lefty 44# @ 28in. Arrows are 3555 goldtips, 29.75 in long with 125g points. Shooting from about 15 yards they are sticking in the target consistently at an angle like this / any ideas what causes that?
~Brock

Offline Javi

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2011, 03:28:00 PM »
I'd suspect they are stiff if you are saying the nock is left..
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Offline adeeden

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2011, 03:29:00 PM »
I can't see your picture, but I have a feeling your pretty stiff on that shaft. I shoot 46# and shoot the same size and length of arrow but have to have 225 grains up front. I simply use a 100 grain insert.
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Offline Russell2

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2011, 03:29:00 PM »
The bow might not be tuned or your release might not be perfect. I just started and I had the same problem, there might be guys on here that can give you a better answer. Hope that helped

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2011, 03:38:00 PM »
Sorry, there isn't a picture, I was just using the forward slash / to illustrate the arrow sticking in the target. The point is stuck in where I am aiming, and the nock is to the left.
~Brock

Offline Jake Fr

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2011, 03:46:00 PM »
i think you are too stiff also you can get test packs of feidl tips from most trad archy places but i would start at 200grn point and go from there till it does what you want the heavey points is cheaper than having to take out inserts an such just mho take care and good luck jake

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2011, 04:20:00 PM »
what type of target

Offline bsoper

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2011, 04:25:00 PM »
Foam target.
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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2011, 05:58:00 PM »
Brock, here's a link to O.L. Adcock's Tuning info. You should download it, as it's easier to read that way. It's a great run-down on tuning Trad bows.

  http://www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.html

You can go thru the whole tuning method or not, but it explains things, and tells you what your nock orientation is telling you.
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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2011, 06:02:00 PM »
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Originally posted by DannyBows:
Brock, here's a link to O.L. Adcock's Tuning info. You should download it, as it's easier to read that way. It's a great run-down on tuning Trad bows.

  http://www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.html  
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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2011, 06:41:00 PM »
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Originally posted by DannyBows:
Brock, here's a link to O.L. Adcock's Tuning info. You should download it, as it's easier to read that way. It's a great run-down on tuning Trad bows.

   http://www.acsbows.com/bowtuning.html  

You can go thru the whole tuning method or not, but it explains things, and tells you what your nock orientation is telling you.
Is it reversed for lefties?
~Brock

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2011, 06:48:00 PM »
Yes.  Stiff spine will be right for lefties, and left will be weak.

Offline reddogge

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2011, 07:06:00 PM »
Way stiff. Add 50 or 100 gr inserts or heavier point weight. Best to try to tune with bare shaft first. Strip one of them for testing.
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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2011, 08:09:00 PM »
Unless you're shooting a cut past center bow a .600 spine carbon would more than likely be the ticket
What's cheaper 1/2 dz. shafts or a 1/2 dz. broadheads?

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2011, 08:28:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Blkbird:
Unless you're shooting a cut past center bow a .600 spine carbon would more than likely be the ticket
What's cheaper 1/2 dz. shafts or a 1/2 dz. broadheads?
It's cut 1/8 past center
~Brock

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2011, 08:47:00 PM »
mine do the same, 33/55 cut to 28 1/4 225 up front! 47lbs? maybee stiff. idk?
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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2011, 10:50:00 AM »
I think it's time to do some serious bareshaft tuning. Where is the best place to get some test kits for field tips in the heavier weights?
~Brock

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2011, 11:02:00 AM »
Brock, try shooting a different target. I have one 3-d target that will alway force my nock to the left! Just one target out of 12!
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Offline Yeoman Bowman

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Re: Arrows sticking in like this /
« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2011, 11:12:00 AM »
The 3555 should work with a 200 gr tip. Try Stu Miller's Dynamic Spine Calculator to play around with the variables. You may need to cut the BOP length by .25" or so, depending on the specific type of bow & insert weight.

The DSC is available here:

 http://heilakka.com/stumiller/

Then tune from there.

Good luck.
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