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Author Topic: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos  (Read 565 times)

Offline Bernie B.

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2011, 09:51:00 PM »
Boy, I can smell those feathers from here!  I remember when I was just getting started in archery in the late 60's, I would burn my feathers with a Young feather burner.  If I remember right my father-in-law and I  used the burner in his basement one time burning flu flus.  That didn't go over too well!  I think that's when I started buying precut feathers!  Great memories!

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2011, 10:02:00 PM »
Don't know about feathers but I was cutting an antler with the dremel this evening and I can still smell it. had to spray raid for mosquitos just to cover the smell  :)
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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2011, 10:43:00 PM »
I second the comment of saumensch.  I have always wondered how they worked.  I assumed that you burned the feathers prior to glueing them on.  Now I realize it is done afterwards.  Thanks for the pictures.

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2011, 02:21:00 PM »
Thanks for the compliments guys. There is something about doing it yourself that even makes it more attractive to me.

  Ron L,that bar on the left helps hold the ribbon in place and probably helps to heat it up also.I had this burner from new, so I imagine you could probably get in touch with Young's if you need one.

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2011, 02:57:00 PM »
the little "L" bar that comes with the young is to be used when the burning wire is shortened for small fletches so that the wire won't heat up so red hot.

i added a simple in-line on/off switch and turn off the burner after each arrow is done.
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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #45 on: June 08, 2011, 05:46:00 PM »
Evening on the Beltway:

 

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Long, long afterward, in an oak I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end, I found again in the heart of a friend.

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #46 on: June 09, 2011, 12:51:00 AM »
I've never seen that done before either. What's the advantage of burning over chopping? I chop all mine and it seems like a nicer cut than the burner leaves with not much clean up involved. Also wondering how much harder it is to fletch a feather that wide versus one that's already chopped to the shape you want?

Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #47 on: June 09, 2011, 05:42:00 AM »
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I've never seen that done before either. What's the advantage of burning over chopping?

you get to create the feather shape

I chop all mine and it seems like a nicer cut than the burner leaves with not much clean up involved.

maybe, maybe not - there are important burning chops to be learnt and there are both good and bad feather burns ... it's not as easy as whacking a feather in a chopper, but once properly understood, burnt feathers are far more precise than those chopped.

Also wondering how much harder it is to fletch a feather that wide versus one that's already chopped to the shape you want?

piece of cake ... summa you guyz have GOT to check out the 'how to - resources' forum! ... see my fletching vid below ...

Thanks for sharing.
   
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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #48 on: June 09, 2011, 08:53:00 AM »
Very nice Craig-  Like the pics

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #49 on: June 09, 2011, 10:53:00 AM »
Thank you Mr. Bill.

  Rob,nice video. I use a straight clamp that is marked off in various sizes to cut my feathers. Put it in once,make your cuts and your done. It is really quick.

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2011, 02:10:00 PM »
Thanks for sharing the How-To, Craig.  Nice work!
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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2011, 02:53:00 PM »
That is really cool, I to have never seen it done before....
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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2011, 04:38:00 PM »
Can you get 2 5" feathers out of a full length? If so, is one end of feather different from the other.? Like is it ok to burn one feather from the front and the 2nd from the remainder? Or is it just 1 5" per 1 full length? Thx
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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #53 on: June 09, 2011, 05:29:00 PM »
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Can you get 2 5" feathers out of a full length?

with a *perfect* full primary, maybe.  for the most, no way, ain't gonna happen

If so, is one end of feather different from the other.?

yes - the front of any feather has a very full, wide quill base - the tip end can thin down to a pencil line which is just too thin. for the most part, with a *good* feather, i'll get a 5.25" fletch and a 3.5" fletch.

Like is it ok to burn one feather from the front and the 2nd from the remainder?

yes, i do that all the time with 4" fletches

Or is it just 1 5" per 1 full length?

yep, that's about it.  i'm careful the way i cut feathers, and i prefer 5.25" lengths for a 3-fletch shield cut.  the left over feather, maybe 3.5" if i'm lucky, is used for "throw away" woodies

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #54 on: June 09, 2011, 06:41:00 PM »
Got it Rob, Thanks..
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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #55 on: June 09, 2011, 07:28:00 PM »
good stuff Craig.....they look good enough to shoot at this year at either Standing Stone or Shade Mountain!


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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2011, 10:49:00 AM »
1 cut per feather for me,regardless of size. I take it where the oil line runs the highest that way I am getting the best possible feather I can.

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Re: Doing the "Morning Burn" w/ photos
« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2011, 11:09:00 AM »
Rob monkeyball thanks, I also use a switch.

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