Going ilf, help

[Medley]

I have been longing a new bow for quite sometime, have changed my mind on what bow to get several times, but I believe I have settled on an ilf bow.

The bow is going to be primarily for hunting. I also like to target shoot out to 30-40 yards.

I like recurves around 58 inches long, and longbows around 62 inches long.

I have not decided if I want to start with recurve or longbow limbs yet, and that leads to my first questioon.

Do you get the same performance out of the recurve and longbow limbs, lets say the carbons that tradtech offers?

Next question, the apex riser appeals to me, but is there another one I should consider based on what I said above?

I dont really have any interest in any metal risers. Ultimately, I plan on having one riser, with a couple sets of limbs.

New to ilf, so any help and direction would be fantastic!

[babs]

I just shot the new titan 2 at ETAR and it was an awesome bow, the guy at lancaster said they wernt quite ready yet should be in august sometime. It was a black riser and had two broadhead cutouts in riser which looked awesome, look it up it also had the blackmax limbs which shoot awesome and didnt cost a fortune, should be able to pick whole setup for like $550

[LongStick64]

It all depends on your budget. You can go top end like Zipper and Morrison, exotic wood risers and carbon/foam limbs. You wouldn't be sorry you did. They are amazing bows. But if you are on a tight budget, you can go for cheaper setup, I think Bob makes a simple wood riser and use cheaper TT limbs.

[Turkeys Fear Me]

If you are in the market for eye candy, which is always a matter of opinion, the Morrison or Zipper might be the way to go.  If you are looking for performance and value the soon to come out Apex with with the Black Max limbs would be hard to beat and they are pretty darn good looking to boot.

[LongStick64]

TFM

Performance can be measured several ways. The accuracy and consistency I get wether I'm using my Zipper ILF or my Morrison ILF outweighs how good they look. You don't have to buy them beacuse they look better than the others, they perform extremely well. My new Zipper ILF is the most accurate shooter I have ever shot, looks darn good too.

[Medley]

Eye candy is nice, but yes I am on a tight budget for now. I am hoping to start less expensive, and just upgrade the riser down the road.

I will say this though, the pics I saw of that apex were pretty easy on the eyes.

[YORNOC]

Recurve limbs are a bit easier to shoot consistantly, especially at the 30-40 yard distance. But at hunting distances, you can pick your poison, ILF setups are great. Shoot them both if you can afford it, lots of fun.

[azhunter]

I think you need to pay attention to the grip of each model you are considering. That usually makes the difference for me. You are going to really like the ILF platform and what it offers.

[rainman]

Dryad has a very nice Ilf package also.

[amar911]

I thought I would combine the comments from the other identical thread into this one. Maybe the other one could be deleted.

 

Originally posted by Bowbldr:
Dryad, Zipper, Sky, Morrison.    Buy Made in the USA

Bob Morrison gave a good list of bows, except that I would have put his ILF bow first, not last like he did. I love Bob's bows, and the ILF may be the best of the models he builds (although I have more of his Cheyennes and Shawnees and wouldn't part with any of them). The ILF is the most versatile of his bows. Personally, I like the Mini-13 or the Mini-15 with the "D" longbow limbs the best. I have a 3 year old Mini-14 phenolic riser with low grip that is wonderful. I originally got the "C" foam/carbon longbow limbs that I really like, but am at the limit of their draw potential with my 29.5" draw length. That combination makes a short and handy 56" bow that is wonderful for just about any hunting. I later bought some "D" foam/carbon longbow limbs that add a couple of extra inches, but give me a nicer, smoother draw that I would definitely choose if I were not going to be cramped for space while hunting. Bob makes great recurve limbs too, and I have a bunch of them, mostly for my multiple Cheyenne bows. Bob's mounting and adjustment system is very nice, and he shapes every riser himself, so you can get exactly what you want. I like the phenolic risers he produces and highly recommend them as good-looking, tough, strong, functional workhorses; however, his beautiful exotic wood risers are what I have the most of and love looking at.

Nothing wrong with the other models Bob mentioned, and I sure don't want to suggest they are not good choices. Mike, Jason and Connie Westvang are all wonderful people, and they have created many beautiful Dryad bows. I especially think their ILF risers are good and, like the other makers' risers, will accommodate so many different ILF limbs. One of the nice things about ILF is you can mix and match risers and limbs depending on what you find. Just be aware that the weights shown for the limbs vary depending on which riser it is installed on.

Allan

[Keith Zimmerman]

I have a Morrison Mini 13" with a set of Bob's C/F recurve limbs making a 60" recurve.  I absolutely love it.  It's beautiful and is extremely smooth and fast.  I also have a set of WinEx limbs for it too.  They are lighter so I don't shoot them as much.  But combined with his riser it is a shooter too!  Bob's risers and limbs are top notch performers.

[Turkeys Fear Me]

Originally posted by Bowbldr:
Dryad, Zipper, Sky, Morrison.  Buy Made in the USA

No offense, but that's kind of self serving if you ask me.  They all make nice bows for sure, but the buying public can make their own value decisions.  Supporing an American bowyer is no different in my book that supporting an American retailer.

I say buy the one that works best for you on all fronts, and don't feel one dang bit guilty about it.

[Keith Zimmerman]

I agree Bob.  Buy made in the USA.  Keep the profits from going overseas.

[riverrat 2]

ILF is all about options. I hear recurve limbs
have more performance than longbow limbs do. I have shot alot of each,and still prefer a longbow
profile myself. I would invest in one set of each
if you can afford it. You can always sell what does not work. Try to buy used when experimenting
or it can get costly quick. I love carbon foam core. It is smooth,fast,and I can hold at ful draw longer with it when if have compared against
both Bamboo,and Maple cored limbs. It is costly.
I like the long limbed,short risered ILF set-ups
also. Those limbs have a great cast,low to no stack,and you can stay 60 to 58 inches in either
longbow or recurve form when ur riser is 13".
you will have a smaller sight window,which you may or may not like. HAVE FUN WITH IT!!

[Medley]

Tradtech has done alot to promote ilf, and I dont believe they deserve any discrimination.

Buying from them would be no different than buying from any of the others in my eyes. Lancaster employs and pays taxes like everybody else does.

I appreciate the comments, and would like more. As I said, I just
started learning about ilf.

But if I only bought 100 percent American, I am not too sure we could be having this conversation. No

[2 Barrels]

I've had a bunch of ilf limbs in the past year or so.I've found that the production limbs with wood core's.Cast a hunting weight arrow better than the foam core limbs.That being said the fastes smoothest limbs i've shot are Morrison glass foam limbs.Your best bet is to find a riser with a grip that fits you.And a length that suits your needs and style the best.I draw 29 inches.I like 17" riser's with long limbs.I dont have anything against trad tech.I got to meet John Wert at Denton Hill.He's a great guy and a hard worker.But you can get a really great riser with a custom grip from the custom bowyers listed above for a little more money.Just my two cent's worth.Have fun with it!

[Medley]

Ya, just starting out, and knowing a good amount of mlney will go into arrows and limb experimentation, I am prob going to start with a tradtech riser

Want to buy "the best riser for me" eventually, but I will need to hit a show or something to see them all.

Cant do it from web pages unfortunately.

Stilk in the air about which limbs to start with.

[LongStick64]

See if Bob Morrison still has any Metal risers in stock, they are the best value right now at a huge discounted price.

[Bob Morrison]

As you state, you are just starting out. What ever you start out with is just your 1st step, and everything will change. I would recommend, Checking out the classified adds, get a used riser and limbs you will be better off and closer to what you will settle into later. A new set of high end limbs( Korea, UK, USA) are better than the lower end(China, some Korea) , and you probably won't be able to tell the difference until you have shot a lot and maybe several years of shooting. Buy what you need to get started and then you will still be trying several types and brands of bows for years to come,, Thats what makes this so much fun, Kind of like golf there is no perfect score that is possible and no bow is perfect for everyone. Thanks God for that, I would not want to be the bowyer that had to make everyones bow.