I tried one out and decided that the seat needed a little help. On slight padded seats my butt likes an additional cushion, I wear one that is attached to by belt and dangles behind me. I made of my own tree leaner with wood and some with some alterations, after seeing the original. I prefer the Hunters 360 if I know where I am going to plant myself, but things that are easier to carry are handier when I have the roamies. I got frustrated with always crushing my boys when I would lean forward to shoot with the cheap rotating tripod folding stools, the tree leaners are quieter and quicker than anything out there.