Thankfull Trad is simple

[kennyb]

Tim-I totally agree! So many things to make hunting more complicated! It's weird to think I was so enamored for so long with all that junk!
I am very grateful for finding the traditional way! Thanks to you guys too!

Kenny  

[Jake Fr]

yeah it used to be i couldn't go there with out handing them a hundred dollar bill. Now i can go in walk for a lil bit and look at fly fishing stuff and leave

[DennyK]

I was waiting for a haircut the other day and grabbed a hunting magazine, geeze, what they are selling as bows with all the bells and whistles truely made me shake my head. What a nice conrtrast we enjoy with the simplicity of traditional archery. When I get ready to shoot, it's a couple stretching excercises, grab the bow and shoot! No toolbox required!  Life is good!

[Slasher]

Gee.. I can't get out under $100... Let's see,
wife wanted a skirt..
youngest wanted a hat...
daughter wanted a cowgirl hat...
Oldest wanted a t-shirt....

Just over a $100... But then 20 years a go that would've been less tha half that price and some of it would've been made in the USA and none of it, made in China

[LA Trapper]

I disagree totally.  Respectfull of course.  I would not call it simple.  Look at all of the posts you see on Trad Gang.  Archers trying to maximize the equipment they have chosen to shoot.  

Simple, no.  FOC, Stu's calculator, 58" or 60", RW or LW.  Skinny string or standard string, dacron or FF, grip- high or low, options, body position, Big shot or standard soft glove or tab or what ever, Carbon, wood, aluminum, cut on contact, single bevel, double bevel, left bevel, right bevel, wool, synthetic, tree stand, ground blind, stalk, optics, cover scents or not, hard pad on the shelf, soft pad, three fingers under, split fingers, 3:1 ratio or shorter, two blade, three blade, tanto tip, glue on, screw on, back quiver, bow quiver, shield, parabolic, banana,  etc. etc, etc.

Simple, I don't think so.  Not in the least bit.  We have our OWN quirks and versions of gadgets and such.  We just make most of them.  The bows most of us shoot cost what a top end compound costs.  

Simple, no.  Different yes.  I speak for myself and reading most of the posts on here, most apprear to strive to maximize the equipment they have chosen to use.

WE (trad shooters) invest more time learning our kraft and studying the results of our experiments.  

WE internally generate more satisfaction out of mastering a less complicated piece of equipment.

Again, respectfully, WE ARE THE SAME, BUT DIFFERENT.

Our conversation when we each gather as a group, centers on words like smooth, quick, silent, fit in the hand, shoots where I look, centercut, stack, glove or tab.   Compound shooters talk about complete capture rests, feet per second, stabilizers, noise, string follow, sights, release, wall.

Compare the two, and you will find more similar thoughts than different.

Again, I respectfully disagree, but I had the same conversation in a new sporting good store today.  I can shoot a compound and I can buy a crossbow.  BUT, THE SATISFACTION I RECEIVE FROM SHOOTING MY RECURVES AND LONGBOWS CAN IN NO WAY COMPARE TO SHOOTING A COMPOUND. The feeling of a criply released finger held arrow that you know is going where you look can not be compared to squeezing the trigger on a release.

I support what you are saying and I FEEL WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.  

But simple?

By the way, thanks for kicking this topic up.  You must have ESP or ESPN (LOL)  with that conversation I had late this afternoon concerning the pleasure of shooting traditional.

Billy

[Hoyt]

Soon as somebody comes out with a blinding gas and deafening sound machine it should make deer hunting a little easier. Used along with the Ozonics machine the deer won't be able to smell, hear or see.

[straitera]

Get in line! lb only for me & happy about it. Figure we're pretty lucky to get out of that rat race.

[canopyboy]

Following on to LA Trapper's thoughts:  Trad is not necessarily simpler than wheels or crossbows, I agree.  But what it does offer is the option of simplicity.

There are a lot of guys here who spend all sorts of time figuring out their perfect arrow set up, different ILF limb/riser combos, and still use all the scent control options out there.

But there are also a lot of guys who go out with a 60's recurve, an old fashioned longbow, or a stick of osage and some twisted dacron.  They don't wear camo, they don't buy scent control, and their back quiver may be full of arrows that don't match.  They grab one, draw back, and release without thinking about it.  They still put the meat in the freezer.  That is simplicity.

The thing that all trad shooters have that’s different than most of the shooters that BPS caters to is dedication.  You can’t just pick up a bow the week before the season opens, shoot a few arrows to check your sights and then head out.  That really isn’t one of our options.  We need to commit ourselves to the sport and practice regularly.  As a result, for most of us it’s part of our lives 365 days a year.  Archery is a part of who we are, a part we’re proud of.

[LimBender]

Hoyt, I actually saw a product called Nose Jammer this year.  That has got to about take the cake.  You spray it and it is supposed to confuse or disrupt the deer's sense of smell or some kind of nonsense.

Good thoughts La Trapper.  I was patting myself on the back for getting away from all the gadgetry as I spent all night working on arrows.   :rolleyes:   People are mostly wired similarly, but the energy and passion can go in different directions.

[cahaba]

I'm the same way. Everytime I go there I swear not to ever come back.

[darb]

Will toss in my .02 and echo thoughts of LA Trapper and Canopyboy.  Also thought I would point out that there is somee ground to most issues in the world.  

I still enjoy shooting a compound and frequently pick mine up during the rut when the shots tend to be a little longer and the deer movement less dependable.  I am a deer hunter and simply don't have the time to be proficient much past 18-20 yds with my traditional tackle.  


That being said I agree that the modern hunting industry has gotten ridiculous as it continues to reinvent itself in the interests of profit.

I also agree that modern equipment is not as satisfying to shoot and/or take animals with.  I shot an 8 pt last November with my compound with a 21" spread.  I was pumped to say the least.  But the doe I killed during October with my K-Mag (I bought from a Tradgang member) and my grandfathers Bear Greenies up front was far more meaningful to me, and a my "trophy" for the year.

For me it is much simpler to pick up a Bowtech and shoot a couple dozen arrows a week.  I am proficient to take deer out to 40yds.

Not quite so simple for me to do that with a LB or my Bear recurves, but all those afternoons and evenings shooting them is far more rewarding!

Its probably all semantics, but I agree with traditional not necessarily being more simple, less gadget driven maybe, but for me it's just different. And that difference is what makes traditional archery so great for me.  

Now as far as the Ozonics, that is just silly.....

[Running Buck]

I agree with the fact that archery is as complacated or as simple as one wants to make it. If you are someone who wants to be the best you can be, you spend time and money to perfect your craft. Regardless what you hunt with, the hunting industry continues to make better killers not better hunters through innovations for those who want instant gratification from time spent in the field.

[Jake Diebolt]

I think hunting in general has more gadgetry than it used to...not just compounds. My main concern while hunting is to minimize equipment necessary, both for financial reasons and for my own mental health...

When I go hunting, I have my bow, my glove, my armguard, a spare string, and a bow quiver with 4 broadhead arrows. I sit in a treestand (old screaming eagle) with some screw-in tree steps to help with climbing without limbs. I have a knife in my pocket, a compass and some binoculars. I have one outfit of camo, and my boots.

To me, that's still a lot of equipment. Any more and I'd start forgetting stuff anyway. It's certainly more than our distance ancestors carried.

Really, if you boiled it right down, you could do without the camo, the binoculars, the tree stand and the steps.

In terms of simplicity...I would say that how I hunt is simplER than some others, but not simple. But it is less cluttered with 'stuff' and to me that is very important. A few extra gadgets won't hurt you, but when they get in the way of your enjoyment, it's time to ditch them. If you're not out there enjoying yourself, why bother going?

[vtmtnman]

Originally posted by darb:
Will toss in my .02 and echo thoughts of LA Trapper and Canopyboy.  Also thought I would point out that there is somee ground to most issues in the world.  

I still enjoy shooting a compound and frequently pick mine up during the rut when the shots tend to be a little longer and the deer movement less dependable.  I am a deer hunter and simply don't have the time to be proficient much past 18-20 yds with my traditional tackle.  


That being said I agree that the modern hunting industry has gotten ridiculous as it continues to reinvent itself in the interests of profit.

I also agree that modern equipment is not as satisfying to shoot and/or take animals with.  

For me it is much simpler to pick up a MATHEWS and shoot a couple dozen arrows a week.  I am proficient to take deer out to 40yds.

Not quite so simple for me to do that with a LB or my Bear recurves, but all those afternoons and evenings shooting them is far more rewarding!

Its probably all semantics, but I agree with traditional not necessarily being more simple, less gadget driven maybe, but for me it's just different. And that difference is what makes traditional archery so great for me.  

Now as far as the Ozonics, that is just silly.....

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