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Author Topic: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?  (Read 518 times)

Offline Todd Greenwald

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Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« on: September 08, 2011, 08:36:00 PM »
Does anyone know the I.D. of the knock end of the shaft?  Thanks in advance, Todd
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Offline Ringneck

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2011, 09:44:00 PM »
.215 is what I measured a G nock adapter at for the AD Trad.

Offline Paul Mattson

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2011, 09:50:00 PM »
.215  But, they can and do vary + or - .005 .010.
This is why some AD nocks fit tight and some are loose.

Offline Todd Greenwald

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2011, 09:04:00 AM »
Thanks for your help.
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USMC 1992-2000

Offline joe skipp

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2011, 09:19:00 AM »
That's why I installed the nock adapters and use glue on nocks.
"Neal...is this heaven?" "No Piute but we are dam close". Top of the Mtn in Medicine Bow Nat Forest.

Offline JRY309

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2011, 10:49:00 AM »
I prefer G-bushings and G-nocks on my AD arrows,I use them on my Trad's and Traad Lite's.

Offline AdAstraAiroh

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2011, 02:13:00 PM »
I am interested in hearing peoples opinions and experiences with Arrow Dynamics Traditional arrows. In my short time, with a set cut to 30.75," I have found them to react differently than I expected in both flight characteristics and to changes in point weight. I am shooting them out of a 55# longbow. Some times they react like a stiff spined carbon arrow, and sometimes with very little change they fly like a flexible low spined shaft. In researching theses arrows I have found quite a bit of contradictory information
On the web, I have seen spine represented as 55# to 70 # at 28" , 92#, .275 and .350. Weight has been represented at 11.0 gpi, unable to calculate due to taper design, and 355 g full length.

I was hoping someone could give me their experiences with tuning these arrows, specifically for target use, with point weight and general advice, as well as commnets about their reliability and quality of manufacture.

Mark

Offline ken denton

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2011, 06:28:00 PM »
I did not notice if you shoot Trad or Trad-lite?
My AD Trad-Lite's cut 29" and glue on 5/16" arizonia nocks and regular 15 grain alum. point inserts weight 300 grains with 3 5" feathers right helical.
I shoot 44 to 47# longbows and draw 28".
300 grain arrow
200 grain broadhead glue on
 75 grain steel broadhead adaptor
575 gr total weight
This arrow shoots better than any carbon arrow I have ever shot with pass thur on deer.
It recovers quick and never a bent adaptor and strong. Carbon Express Heritage 150 shoot great also and are probably the toughtest Carbon out there. The spine and weight is same on all shafts. Ken
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Offline Looper

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2011, 06:54:00 PM »
I think they are a great shaft.  I have some Trad Lites that I shoot out of a 52#@31" Hill. Full length, standard aluminum insert, cap wrap, 4x4" fletch, and 200 grain point, they weigh 575 grains.  They fly like darts. I prefer to shoot wood out of that bow, though.

Out of my 62-64# @ 31" r/d bows, I shoot an AD Hammerhead, full length, with a standard insert, and  mostly a 175 grain head.  They weight 675 grains and are as tough a shaft as you will find.

I've personally found that they are less finicky than other shafts. I basically skip the bareshafting or paper tuning process and make sure my broadheads hit with my field points.  

Here is a picture of a group shot at 36 yards with a 63#@31" Adcock (RIP). Two broadheads, two field points. The lowest arrow is a broadhead. The other broadhead was dismantled when I hit the back of the head with a field point. I then nocked the nock out with my last field point. If I recall correctly, those arrows had 125 grain tips and weighed 625 grains. These were among my first few shots with the AD Hammerheads. No bareshafting, no brace height adjustment, just putting on some broadheads and seeing how they hit in comparison to the field tips. I think the only thing I did was set my top nock to 3/4" and went from there.

 

Offline joe skipp

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2011, 07:07:00 PM »
I shoot the black Trad Lites...28.5", 100 gr brass insert, 35 gr BHA and with my 125 gr Zwickeys, total arrow weight is 600 grains. At my 27" draw, they fly great from my 57 and 58# recurves. Going to do more testing with them from the new Kempf 55# longbow.
"Neal...is this heaven?" "No Piute but we are dam close". Top of the Mtn in Medicine Bow Nat Forest.

Offline Huntschool

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Re: Arrow Dymanic Trad ?
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2011, 07:11:00 PM »
I have been shooting AD's of one form or another for some time now.  I just recently, March of this year, tried the Trad Lites.

I have been shooting Nitro Stingers with the yellow writing on all my bows and some Nitros with orange writing. (heavier)

I have never had a shaft that is so adaptable as the AD's.  I can shoot the same shaft (Stingers) out of bows from 43# to 55# and the only thing I do is change broad heads.. I shoot heavier BH's on the heavier poundage.  That should not work according to the physics... but it does.

As to the trads (lites in my case) I tuned the shafts to shoot from a 51#@28" Widow PLX bow. They are cut at 29" with AD nocks (not glued) and Zephyr Sasquatch screw on heads.  I have a set of these that I added 50 grn brass inserts to also.  All of these arrows fly the same. Abit more FOC on the ones with the brass in the front end as you might expect.

I am very comfortable with these shafts, so much so in fact, that I only have one set of arrows that are for a particular bow that are not AD's.

AS to target shafts... AD at some point in time a few years back mad a shaft called the Medalist. Weight tollerances seemed to be a bit closer with these shafts but we are not talking much difference.  They were a bit lighter in the GPI catagory but I killed several deer with them.  They were, however, not as tough as the trads or for that matter the Stinger shafts.

I have been shooting for a good bit (started in the mid 60's) and have shot fiber glass, wood, aluminum, and now carbon.  These shafts are beyond a doubt the answer to an archers dream...

JMHO....
Bruce A. Hering
Program Coordinator (retired)
Southeastern Illinois College
NSCA Level III Instructor
Black Widow Bows
AMM 761

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