gun barreling

[toby]

Any body shoot this way. Looking for some pointers.

[lpcjon2]

You should post this in the shooter forum on the main page, may get better results. I have never heard of it myself.

[Friend]

Gun Barrelling as I understand  it :

-A more conscious method of aiming

-Anchoring quite high in order to get the eye as close to the arrow as possible

-Aiming down the shaft

-Typically, an effective means for aiming at relatively closer ranges

-An aiming method not permitted in some tournement venues

-Also my,possibly errant inerpretation of Apache style. I suppose Apaches are banned from these tourneys...LOL

[Huntschool]

Sometimes yes, sometimes, not so much.  I shoot three under and on close shots (about 12 yds and under) I use it. It can also work well with string walking if you learn how. I anchor high any way ... like right under my eye but tend to look at the target at 20 or so yards.

Just my strange way of shooting.

[YORNOC]

Sounds like Point of Aim. A crushing technique at 3D tournaments. Not allowed in some trad shoots. Excellent to learn form, you draw and hold as you "sight in", teaching good anchor, back tension, focus. Definitely shows if you are over bowed.
I'm like Bruce, I semi use it in certain circumstances. I float through different techniques at different times.
 Good to learn the different methods.

[Missouri Sherpa]

I shoot three under, anchor the end of the shaft on my lower eyelid and sight down the shaft.  I don't go to any shoots so it doesn't matter to me if this technique is not allowed at some shoot. (if it is not allowed at some shoots I suspect there must be some perception of an unfair advantage over the people that do not use it I guess) I find this to be a very good accurate way for me to shoot, not just close in but at any distance I decide to shoot.  I suggest you give it a try and see if it helps your accuracy as much as it helped me.

[PSUBowhunter]

This is also how I shot. I have a very high anchor, with the arrow maybe 1" or so under my eye. I would say I am an above average shooter and I would mostly credit it to my aiming methods. I am not going to get into what is allowed and what isnt allowed at 3D shoots, but in my opinion most shooters are using this method to an extent.

[JO_EZ]

Toby,
I tried instinctive ("dont aim, just point and shoot") for years, but couldn't hit anything that way and didn't hunt with my long bow because of it.

This year I went to a point of aim method. I changed my anchor to a higher spot (index finger on my cheek bone and middle finger in the corner of the mouth) and changed to a three fingers under hold.

I use the tip of the arrow as a front sight and if I put the tip on a spot below (about 10") and a little left of my target, I can consistantly hit my mark at 20 yards. I even commit the unforgivable sin of closing my right eye (I'm a lefty) because I am right eye dominant. I just treat the whole thing like a gun.

Rod Jenkins uses this method and explains it well in the "Masters of the Bare bow" series.

It has changed every thing for me and I feel confident hunting with the long bow this year.

I don't care if it is authentic or not, it works when nothing else has for me.

Get a couple of matched arrows that are tuned to your bow. Then, go to your range. I either shoot at one of those block shaped targets or into a hill side. Back off to 10 yards or so. Pick a spot (for instance, the bottom edge of the block target right in the middle), draw and anchor and place the tip of your arrow on the spot you picked. I extend through my back until the string touches my right pectoral and release.

Regardless of where that first arrow hits in relation to the spot you were aiming at, do the same thing with the rest of your arrows.

If your form and release are consistant, you should have a nice little group located some distance higher than your point of aim.

Repeat this at various distances. After some practice, you will get a feel for estimating how much you need to hold under at various distances (this is the "instinctive" part of this system). At some distance, your arrows will hit right about where you put the arrow tip (for me this is 25 yards). Beyond that distance you will need to make your aiming higher than your target. For all my hunting distances, I pick a spot under the target.

Good luck. Remember, there is more than one way to skin a cat, so find something you can repeat consistantly and have fun with it.

- Doyle

I would agree that everyone, whether they admit it or not, use a gun barreling effect to some extent, no one I know has the kind of tunnel vision that is so tight that they cannot see the arrow in their sight line. The three under anchor close to the eye, well being a bit restrictive for shot speed and flexibility, it can help with close range accuracy on still targets.  It works better with bows that are tillered for shooting three under.  I did it with a short recurve for a time, but gave it up because my point on was closer than many of the shooting opportunities I was getting.

[Roger Norris]

"I tried instinctive ("dont aim, just point and shoot") " JO_EZ

Thats not intinctive, thats haphazard.

You didn't need a "pont of aim" system, you needed a better coach.

[Bjorn]

I have ended up doing that by accident-comes from a lack of focus JMHO.

[YORNOC]

Bjorn, Helped me focus even better.


Roger, after reading your response and seeing the bottom of your post...I have a hankering for a shot of irish whiskey. Good warm shot will do me good right about now.  

[Roger Norris]

I just snuck a bottle of Greenore single grain in from Canada. Never seen it here. It puts Jameson to shame....

[BRITTMAN]

Barebow shooting is such a personal thing that each of us have to find what works for us as a individual . Ron Laclair said it best when he said in MBB 1 that he " claimed to be all of these " when talking about diffrent aimming styles and thats kind of what I do myself . Putting the arrow in the right spot is whats its all about and really thats as simple as it is . Gun Barrleing is one of the stlyes that I use sometimes when the situation call for it and I will use other styles when I have to make the shot . I do it barebow with a stick and string and thats cool enough for me